A nice pic (gay thread)

[Wernazuma III]

I'm also surprised about Cuba...

[Odin]

Originally posted by Giancarlo

Virginia is still prosecuting against those who commit gay sex.. even though the supreme court told them not to.

Well thats the Southern redneck barbarians for ya.

BTW, Gian, I suggest you NOT piss off the Catalonians.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Wernazuma III
I'm also surprised about Cuba...

Cuba has had a bad reputation since the 1970s, but it's not apparent that it is deserved. Castro has publicly declared that Cuba needs to do better on bringing equality to gays, but there are reports (dating from the 70s) that homosexuals were imprisoned.

Given that homosexuality has been outlawed in communist countries since Stalin consolidated power, it shouldn't be surprising. Most Stalinists (and the Cuban regime, like all Communist governments, is Stalinist) refer to homosexuality as bourgeois decadence, at best a psychological sickness which can be cured.

[Sava]

damn commie bastards!

[Urban Ranger]

Legal in Indonesia... quite unexpected.

[Alexander's Horse]

Its not uncommon to see men dressed as women in Indonesia. At the village level if a man wants to live as a woman its no big deal.

[Heresson]

Originally posted by Wernazuma III
Somehow I doubt that the color for India is representative for the whole nation, just like I tend to believe that the penalty given for Nigeria is solely based on the laws in the northern part, though I'm sure they don't love gays in the south either...

Yes, I guess so. But they do distinguish between SOME states of USA, Canada and Australia (homosexuality is illegal in Virginia, though, and it is not showed)

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Legal in Indonesia... quite unexpected.

I thought some prime minister was put to jail there severa years ago because of alleged homosexual acs with his brother. I guess it was another state.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
...refer to homosexuality as bourgeois decadence...

Hmmm, it is alarming how a taboo that hangs over from Christianity and it's earlier days can still crop up in supposedly 'communist' nations...rather alarming...

[St Leo]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Hmmm, it is alarming how a taboo that hangs over from Christianity and it's earlier days can still crop up in supposedly 'communist' nations...rather alarming...

Uh, the problem with those nations is that they put a stop to social progress by eliminating dissent. The Soviet Union was ahead of the game in women's rights in the 1920s. It was way behind in the 1970s.

USSR was behind on environmentalism for the same reason. No one protests bad industrial practices if doing so gets you disappeared.

This is exactly why Castro's imprisonment of those two hundred prisoners of consciousness is ahorrent. They were punished for speaking out, thus dooming Cuba to perpetual stasis.

[Giancarlo]

Everyone knows once Castro dies... the communist state in Cuba will fall. What do you think? Castro's brother, Raul (or whatever his name is) will take over? He's a drunk.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Heresson
I thought some prime minister was put to jail there severa years ago because of alleged homosexual acs with his brother. I guess it was another state.

Malaysia, IIRC.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by St Leo

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Hmmm, it is alarming how a taboo that hangs over from Christianity and it's earlier days can still crop up in supposedly 'communist' nations...rather alarming...

Uh, the problem with those nations is that they put a stop to social progress by eliminating dissent.

Not necessarily, unless you somehow equate dissent with progress.

[Sava]

Dissent is essential in a healthy Democracy.

[Ecthy]

is homosexual leaning a form of dissent?

[St Leo]

Originally posted by Ecthelion
is homosexual leaning a form of dissent?

Practising or advocating anything different from the status quo is a form of dissent.

I generally support anti-hate speech laws because they encourage more of positive dissent at the expensive of negative dissent, but more generally any curtailment of dissent is harmful in the long run because it discourages innovation.