Does the 'throw out science' argument work

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by johncmcleod
My two questions though are a) where did the energy come from and b) how did this accident occurr, what caused the change?

The answers are "we don't know" and "we don't know."

However, just because we don't know isn't evidence of a god.

[Whaleboy]

Indeed... lack of evidence against |= evidence for

...especially considering the overwhelming amount of existenting evidence against, the concept of God is effectively being kept alive only by blind faith; I can think of no rational argument that hasn't been completely refuted.

[Urban Ranger]

Yup, that's just the boring bog standard "god of the gaps" argument they've got left.

[Nostromo]

Have creationists tried to explain cases like panda's thumbs? I'm not sure it's even possible in a creationist framework. Well, that's the whole point of Darwin and co. anyway. Cases such as these seals the fate of creationism.

In either case, the panda's thumb is a contrivance that is an artifact of the history of the panda. It is not an ideal design fitted perfectly for holding bamboo, it is an evolved contraption. The original function of the radial sesamoid was to reduce the chance of tears in the tendon that runs to the thumb from a muscle in the arm (the sesamoid forms where this tendon bends around the edge of the wrist). The radial sesamoid was then co-opted to serve its present role in handling bamboo. Indeed, much of the panda's anatomy speaks of contrivance - it is a bear from a meat eating ancestry that has evolved to eat bamboo. Many details of its anatomy appear to be strange contrivances that reflect this history.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by nostromo
Have creationists tried to explain cases like panda's thumbs? I'm not sure it's even possible in a creationist framework. Well, that's the whole point of Darwin and co. anyway. Cases such as these seals the fate of creationism.

No, they aren't trying and haven't been. The whole foundation of "Scientific Creationism" (ID included), if such a thing is possible, is the attacks on evolution. I think Giancarlo's famous quote is so applicable describing Creationism:

You criminal! You provided nothing!