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  • #46
    Originally posted by Barinthus
    If you can discpline your kid without hitting them - great!. But what if you tried every single possible way out there in the world and your kid is a beast from the deepest pit of Hades?

    Then I will have utterly failed as a parent. I just don't think that discipline enforced by force only ( and with no acceptance of the legitimacy of that authority) will be met with anything but the barest compliance.


    Mrs Flubber and I were both raised by parents with similar styles. Moderately strict rules ( a bit stricter than average) with parents that had an attitude that PROJECTED authority. No empty threats . Lots of affection and praise when a child does well ( and generally lots of affection for that matter). Neither of our parents were perfect but looking back we both think our parents did a good job and see no reason their methods can't continue to work.
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    • #47
      I see alot of my parenting skills that my mom used. not all but a lot. I have 3 kids that mind their manners every once in a while the will fight with each other. no ill say every day but who didnt as a kid. My point is i have never had to spank them.
      When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
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      • #48
        Spanking only works if you don't use it on a regular basis. If you have to keep one last resort punishment, then it has to be one you're willing to use, and it has to be one that shocks the kid. I think a smack works on both counts, but only as a last resort. As long as the parent remains in control and follows through with decisions, it shouldn't be needed very often.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
          Spanking only works if you don't use it on a regular basis. If you have to keep one last resort punishment, then it has to be one you're willing to use, and it has to be one that shocks the kid. I think a smack works on both counts, but only as a last resort. As long as the parent remains in control and follows through with decisions, it shouldn't be needed very often.
          I dont know about that I have a sister whos husband spanks his girls They give him a lokk like what next after they have been spanked and go on back to what they are doing. The do however now express their dislike for their dad.
          When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
          "It can't rain all the time"-Eric Draven
          Being dyslexic is hard work. I don't even try anymore.

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          • #50
            Then he's overused it, or not tried enough punishments prior to it. When I was spanked as a child, it wasn't the fact that I was hurt that would make me stop, it's the fact that being hit was a sign that my parents had reached the end of their tether and were getting really angry. If a parent is firm and in control all the time, then it makes the physical punishment an exceptional enough circumstance that it works.
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            • #51
              All i can say is that spankings didnt do much but make me hate the spanker too. I witnessed this when i was a teen My oldest sister not the one I metioned earlier ran aay from home lied to mmy mo hid at at her bfs house when my mom finally draged her out of the house and got her home my sister kept smarting off and things like that. Finally my mom whipped her with a vacum cleaner extension cord. The sister still continued to do all the things she did after that. My grandma used to uses switches on use when we were little I know that I hated her for it after.
              When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
              "It can't rain all the time"-Eric Draven
              Being dyslexic is hard work. I don't even try anymore.

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              • #52
                I have known parents who would even spank their kids right in front of me in an exam room. In general the kids treated that way are not the best mannered kids.
                "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                • #53
                  Free beatings and S&M for everyone!
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                  • #54
                    Finally my mom whipped her with a vacum cleaner extension cord.


                    Damn
                    urgh.NSFW

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                    • #55
                      Spankings are a last resort but one which should be available for extreme cases for children 12 or under. An excellent example of a good time to use it is when your child is misbehaving so badly that the school must call you at work to come pick up your child.

                      It's the final line which shows how disgusted you are with their misbehavior; it's about making the punishment fit the crime. If you're doing it so much your child hates you then you are over using it.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Barinthus
                        I do support corporeal punishment
                        What about incorporeal punishment?
                        "Love the earth and sun and animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown . . . reexamine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great poem and have the richest fluency" - Walt Whitman

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Barinthus
                          If you can discpline your kid without hitting them - great!. But what if you tried every single possible way out there in the world and your kid is a beast from the deepest pit of Hades?
                          Large quantities of sedatives along with electroshock therapy?
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Clear Skies


                            What about incorporeal punishment?
                            I don't believe anyone has ever claimed violent punishment was the only punishment which should be used. Instead everyone has said it is a last resort which should be used sparringly if at all.
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                            • #59
                              ...I was p***taking. If you think you ought to be able to slap your kids' souls around a bit with a ghostly two-by-four, have a blast.
                              "Love the earth and sun and animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown . . . reexamine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great poem and have the richest fluency" - Walt Whitman

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                              • #60
                                I think parents are the only ones making the choice if they should spank their kids or not and everyone else should just stay out of it. I mean obviously not crossing the line of abuse.

                                It is said that if you don't spank your kids, you don't love them enough. I don't know.. though I believe in physical punishment in more ways then most people, I think I might nto be able to even spank my kids. Then again I expect them to learn when me and my wife teach them sharing, teach them respecting other people and tolerating people and different ways, all that liberal ****, I expect them to behave normally, meaning there will be some .. problems, but nothing out of the ordinary problems. I feel that I will teach them respect and yes, parents have absolute authority in their lives for many years. If they misbehave, I don't know if I can spank them. It's not that I don't think it's a good idea. I think it's a good idea. I just feel already that I'm not able to do it.

                                In here we have a nice little tradition, where a kid is supposed to go and get a wig from the tree for the parent that will be used to whip the kids butt. Kind of nice way, where they have to get their own weapon they'll be beat on . Then they cry while they take the wig out of a tree, making the mistake of taking the most .. weak looking wig, notrealizing it'll whip more . And then it's whipping time! Of course, this teaches VERY well not to do it again. I know people who have had to do that.

                                I was never spanked or hit. My parents didn't believe in it. I believe in spanking yes. Maybe my beautiful wife can do it, that would be the best. Somehow I don't want any part in it. Maybe this makes me weak I don't know. But I don't blame anyone who does it, more power to them.
                                In da butt.
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