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  • #16
    Originally posted by Boshko

    Hmmm I know that Japanese universities are also a bit of a joke (vacation after working you ass off in HS). Is China the same?
    Yes, but with some major recent changes.

    Students work very hard in high school/middle school, undergo brutal tests, then (until recently) the top 5% got into college where virtually everyone passes virtually every class, whether they actually show up or not. Rampant, unabashed copying and cheating (by students and faculty) is absolutely the norm. I taught at one of China's top universities for one semester, and experienced this first hand.

    Some of the other 95% who don't make the grade head abroad for college.

    However, there has recently been a big change in what happens upon graduation. Up until recently, few students needed to search for work upon graduation. Virtually all graduates received one or more offers of employment and stepped immediately into their new jobs.

    However, China recently underwent a crash program to increase the number of college grads, more than doubling the number in just four years (Chinese don't do things in half measures).

    This has caused some huge problems. Many of the new schools are private ones, with high tuition and questionable academic credentials. Also, there is now a major oversupply of college grads, many having to spend months searching for jobs, which is quite a rude awakening for many.

    Some new college grads are making the painful discovery that their initial job offers involve pay at about the same level as factory work. This is difficult to swallow for a student whose family sacrificed to scrape together four years of college tuition. Also, for many Chinese college graduates, taking a job at a factory would involve an unacceptable level of loss of face.

    Here in Shanghai, the numbers of college grads unwilling to take jobs at the paltry initial salaries offered has been large enough to create a burgeoning class of young "gentlemen/ladies of leisure" who live off their doting parents (remember: one child policy). A few wind up in my English classes, bored and directionless.

    So, yes, college life seems mighty easy in China, but it no longer insures a good job as it did until recently.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Azazel


      nice legs, bad hair.
      I see nothing wrong with their hair. Nor do I see anything really silly....
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      • #18
        Originally posted by pchang


        I see nothing wrong with their hair. Nor do I see anything really silly....
        Its ****ing snowing, you don't wear miniskirts when its ****ing snowing.

        Mindseye, sounds a bit familiar. Apparently Korean college grads have increased in numbers quite a bit lately and with that and the economy not doing so well they've been having a MUCH harder time finding jobs than would be the case a couple of years ago, there's been a number of suicides etc.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Boshko
          Oh and on the subject of the sillyness of korean pop culture I just couldn't resist posting this:
          I see nothing wrong with this picture.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Boshko

            Its ****ing snowing, you don't wear miniskirts when its ****ing snowing.

            Mindseye, sounds a bit familiar. Apparently Korean college grads have increased in numbers quite a bit lately and with that and the economy not doing so well they've been having a MUCH harder time finding jobs than would be the case a couple of years ago, there's been a number of suicides etc.
            It can't be snowing if there is not snow on the ground

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Smiley
              The problem the export of Hollywood culture is not everywhere has a sunny-all-year climate....
              Yeah, it gets cold even here in California yet I am amazed that so many young women feel compelled to wear miniskirts and belly shirts in the dead of winter. You know those poor girls must be freezing.

              It's times like that I'm happy I'm a man who can wear pants and long sleeves when I feel like it.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by pchang
                I see nothing wrong with their hair. Nor do I see anything really silly....
                I always thought wearing mini-skirts in a snow storm was slightly silly.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Oerdin


                  I always thought wearing mini-skirts in a snow storm was slightly silly.
                  a few flakes is not a snowstorm.

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                  • #24
                    Its ****ing snowing, you don't wear miniskirts when its ****ing snowing.
                    Those are miniskirts?
                    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                    • #25
                      Oh and to post something slightly on topic (somebody had to do it), there was a long series in the WaPo a couple of months ago about a lot of Koreans coming to the US to opt out of the Korean education system.

                      Apparently, many families come to the DC area, for instance. The mom enrolls at a community college for the student visa and the kids go to local high schools (which are reasonably good). Dad stays in Korea to work at Korea Inc. to pay for all of this.

                      Weird setup, but from little I know about the Korean education system, this kind of drastic action perhaps makes sense.
                      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Dissident

                        a few flakes is not a snowstorm.
                        It does where I come from.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by DanS
                          Those are miniskirts?


                          Well, they aren't shorty-short miniskirts, but they do end above the knee.

                          I'd have to know about the circumstances of this snowstorm, their origin, and their destination to pass judgement on their attire.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by DanS
                            Oh and to post something slightly on topic (somebody had to do it), there was a long series in the WaPo a couple of months ago about a lot of Koreans coming to the US to opt out of the Korean education system.

                            Apparently, many families come to the DC area, for instance. The mom enrolls at a community college for the student visa and the kids go to local high schools (which are reasonably good). Dad stays in Korea to work at Korea Inc. to pay for all of this.

                            Weird setup, but from little I know about the Korean education system, this kind of drastic action perhaps makes sense.
                            Yeah that's somewhat popular (my old doctor was doing that) but there's lots of ways to tap into the American educational system. A lot of people send their kids to live with an uncle or something in the states. My old school had a profitable side business sending kids to homestays and private schools (lot of Christian kids and Christian private schools are often pretty afordable). In my current school a lot of kids go to very preppy boarding schools in the states and come back here to get lessons from me during their vacations (am getting slammed with classes now that its american spring break) or plan to do so when they hit high school. Also a lot of Korean execs get rotated into jobs overseas so you get some that way too.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by joncha


                              I got my wife the box set of Damo for Christmas. The melodrama aside, I thought it was not so bad.
                              Is that the tunneling movie?
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Boshko

                                Its ****ing snowing, you don't wear miniskirts when its ****ing snowing.
                                I once saw a girl wearing less than that in -20 celsius weather. All she was wearing was a skirt and a spagehti string tank top. Not even a coat or anything. Clubbers.
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