LA: We are bad voters

[Giancarlo]

Well the results are coming in and boy is that ****. ****ing Antonio Villaraigosa is gonna win..

I'm sorry I'm just mad. We are kicking out one corrupt leader and bringing yet another in.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

The place is very walk able and many people do walk rather then drive to the coffee shop, the country store, or one of the restaurants down the block. These places exist you just have to look for them.

i too live a mile from the navy and it seems they always use exam week to hold their big night excercies.
im trying to study abroad next year, but if i dont, ill end up living somewhere off of Governor/genessee, if you know where that is. SC might be a nice place to live, but theres no way i can afford to live there. and face it, those neighborhoods/houses off of governor arnt exactly inspiring. i'd rather live in a skyrise/multistory apartment in a city and be able to walk everywhere then in a treeless - peopless suburb with nothing to do, and where everyone drives 30 - 40 minutes to go do stuff.
living in the 5-805-52 triangle is cheap, but somewhat depressing.

pb is much of the same, but with more clubs and i wouldnt be able to concentrate on studies if i lived there. clairemont/mira mesa are all kinda far away.

[Dinner]

I'm living in Scrippes Ranch which is kind of between Mira Mesa and Poway. Yeah, the Genesee & Govornor area is an old 50's development which reflects the post war "just throw it up as quick as we can" mentality. If you want a walkable neighborhood with trees then try North Park or even the East Village. They've realy did a nice job redeveloping that area plus it isn't far from the gaslamp or the trolley lines. My ideal place would have to be Little Italy though since it is right on the beach, near the trolley, has two large parks, lots of restaurants/bars, is very walkable, but a bit more grown up then PB.

Failing that old town would be another good choice for a walkable neighborhood with plenty to do and several leafy parks. I've seen three bedrooms houses offered for $1400 in old town and 2 bedrom apartments in Little Itally going for about the same. Not bad if you have a room mate.

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
too many highways, too many suburbs, too much growth, too many malls.

This pretty much describes every single city in America with the exception of:

New York
Washington
Chicago
San Francisco

And even those places all have sprawling suburbs.

American cities in general BLOW. They aren't cities anymore unless you are lucky enough to both live and work in the downtown area.

Suburbs

Ted Striker

[Imran Siddiqui]

Suburbs

Ted Striker

[Az]

Multi-story appartment building suburbs, with public transport access, theatres, libraries, etc


American sprawling urban nightmare of semi-repetitive private homes, SUVs, and malls

[Imran Siddiqui]

American sprawling urban nightmare of semi-repetitive private homes, SUVs, and malls

Suburbia is the place to be!

[Az]

[GePap]

New York has huge suburbs- heck, at least 3 counties in NY, one in Connecticut, and most of northern NJ are part of the NY metorpolitan area. The first suburb was Levittown, NY, a suburb of..NYC. The thing is, this area is small, so there is no more room to sprawl.

[Az]

Build UP.

Hell, most of Queens is pretty flat.

[GePap]

Yet, its flat, and yet already much more densely populated than most places in the US. Having worked for a politician in the City, I casn tell you that significant building in Queens to increase density si NOT going to happen- politically impossible.

[Odin]

Suburbs:
small towns:
Restoration of the inner cities and reversal of White Flight:

[Lawrence of Arabia]

This pretty much describes every single city in America with the exception of:

New York
Washington
Chicago
San Francisco

yep, but at least in SF and NY (manhatten) when you are in the city, you know what you are in the city (not sure about those other places.) sure there are lots of burbs around it, but theres no doubt whats the difference between suburbs and the cities.

Multi-story appartment building suburbs, with public transport access, theatres, libraries, etc

see that never happens in most cities in america that arnt on islands/peninsulas because its cheaper to build new, single story buildines than destroy the old and build up skyrises.

I'm living in Scrippes Ranch which is kind of between Mira Mesa and Poway. Yeah, the Genesee & Govornor area is an old 50's development which reflects the post war "just throw it up as quick as we can" mentality. If you want a walkable neighborhood with trees then try North Park or even the East Village. They've realy did a nice job redeveloping that area plus it isn't far from the gaslamp or the trolley lines. My ideal place would have to be Little Italy though since it is right on the beach, near the trolley, has two large parks, lots of restaurants/bars, is very walkable, but a bit more grown up then PB.

what sort of prices are we looking at in north park/ east village for 2 - 4 bedroom?

[Az]

Yet, its flat, and yet already much more densely populated than most places in the US. Having worked for a politician in the City, I casn tell you that significant building in Queens to increase density si NOT going to happen- politically impossible.

Let it crawl. First, some higher zoning around transportation arteries... and then crawl from there to the outside, and inside the city.

[Odin]

Oh, and:

MINNEAPOLIS-ST. PAUL PWNS ALL!!!