Hitler's Bombe: Fact or No?

[Kuciwalker]

The book says that all the facts and stuff mentioned in it are true...

[Zoid]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
How is this as bad as a book listed as fiction?

As Kuci said, because Dan Brown claim that the book is based on scientific facts. Facts that are proved to be bogus and a really elaborate prank that got out of hand...

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Ted Striker

Damn dirty joke stealer!

[GePap]

Don't you guys know? The nazis had nuclear bombs, flying saucers, time machines, androids, cyborgs, giant robots, submerged aircraft carriers, the holy grail, the ark of the covenant, vampires, werewolves, interdimensional gateways to hell, giant mutant animals, and spaceships!

Have TV, film, and books taught us nothing!

[Boris Godunov]

I think the "dirty bomb" argument is the most possible, but the notion they were working on anything close to a functional nuclear bomb is simply absurd. German scientists in 1944-45 were more than a little preoccupied with other matters, not to mention seriously hampered by a lack of critical resources.

[Dr Strangelove]

I think that ibn the end Hitler regretted not giving the A-bomb enough priority. German scientists, knowing full well that they didn't have the time or facilities to make a true A-bomb may have suggested building a dirty bomb as being the next best thing. That the kind of nuclear material they had available might not have been the most effective for such a purpose may not have been a drawback for a bunch of guys hoping to avoid a Gestapo firing squad, particularily if they knew that western allied troops, and liberation from the madman's grasp, were only days or weeks away.

[Boris Godunov]

I think their real regret was not giving air superiority its due. Hence the frantic rush towards jet engines. They got killed from the air.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
I think their real regret was not giving air superiority its due. Hence the frantic rush towards jet engines. They got killed from the air.

I seem to recall someone demonstrating that had the Germans been able to bring jet fighters into full production even as early as 1943 it wouldn't have made a difference because they didn't have the capability of prducing enough fuel. The early jet were rapacious fuel guzzlers. Had they converted completely to jets they wouldn't have been able to fly enough sorties to make a difference.

[The Andy-Man]

Originally posted by GePap
Don't you guys know? The nazis had nuclear bombs, flying saucers, time machines, androids, cyborgs, giant robots, submerged aircraft carriers, the holy grail, the ark of the covenant, vampires, werewolves, interdimensional gateways to hell, giant mutant animals, and spaceships!

Have TV, film, and books taught us nothing!

And don't forget that in the 70's they cloned a fully grown adult hitler in brazil, or somehwere, until Wonder Woman foiled their plans

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
I seem to recall someone demonstrating that had the Germans been able to bring jet fighters into full production even as early as 1943 it wouldn't have made a difference because they didn't have the capability of prducing enough fuel. The early jet were rapacious fuel guzzlers. Had they converted completely to jets they wouldn't have been able to fly enough sorties to make a difference.

True, but Hitler did not realize the full potential of even non-jet air power in the war when he had the chance. The German war machine's chief focus was armor, not air power (despite the effective use of it early on). Had they made air superiority their number one concern (and not squandered the Luftwaffe on the mindnumbingly stupid Battle of Britain), they would have been in a far better position to deal with Allied bombing strikes.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


True, but Hitler did not realize the full potential of even non-jet air power in the war when he had the chance. The German war machine's chief focus was armor, not air power (despite the effective use of it early on). Had they made air superiority their number one concern (and not squandered the Luftwaffe on the mindnumbingly stupid Battle of Britain), they would have been in a far better position to deal with Allied bombing strikes.

Not really. The main german geopolitical concern was the conquest of the east-that requires land forces- in the perfect world, the allied bombing startegy woulkd have been a non-issue, since conquest of the east would theoretically given germany control of enough oil and resources to keep the allies at bay and accross the Channel, thought hopefully actually forced the UK to declare peace.

You don;t build a military force with the expectation of having to defend the homeland if you go into the offensive, you make one to win when you go into the offensive. The Germans had plenty of aircraft to deal with the allies- oil was always the biggest problem, that and manpower. The germans gave their pilots tiny amounts of training, cause training means flying, flying means using up oil. So as the war went on the germans would lose their pilots with half a decade of experience and were forced to replace them with rank amateurs. And the pressure of facing a huge land war vs the Soviets meant manpower was always short.

The Germans were not beaten by allied bombing. They were beaten by allied armies, mainly Soviet ones. Air superiority alone was not going to win them the east.

[Joseph]

Read Hitler's Miracle Weapons by Friedrich Georg, pub by Helion.

[Joseph]

I had a whole thing typed and then AOL crashed, so I will not retype the whole thing. If you do read Miracle Weapons then you should also read Warplane of the Third Reich by William Green. Most of the planes in Miracle are shown in Warplane.

[Joseph]

On page 29 of Miracle Weapons there is a picture of a Bf 109 K-4 Work Number 330/75 of III/JG 51 taking off from the Junkerstroylhof airfield in April 1945. Under the fuselage it is carrying a completely unknown bomb. Is this Hitler's small uranium bombs? Photograph Griel collection.

[Joseph]

Page 53 of Miracle Weapons. They talk about a Stratosphere Bomb. Hitler was building Uranium bombs. We dropped a Uranium bomb on Hiroshima. The only problem with this is we the US did not build any Uranium bombs until after the war. Where did we get one? Also the first Uranium bomb that we did build was so big, it would not fit in a B-29 bomb bay. However the Hiroshima bomb was fitted with no problems.
The US built Plutonium bombs. We tested a Plutonium bomb, but never tested Unranium bomb before dropping it on Hiroshima. Why?