Evil Evil France!

[loinburger]

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
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[Spiffor]

This is an incredibly horrifying story. I wonder if it is the case that pedophiles face the same treatment in prison in France that they did in the USA.

Don't worry, we'll probably treat them worse, except for the death row thing. We have the dubious honour to be the only country that has ever been condemned for torture in its prisons by the European Court of Human Rights, along with Turkey

[Bosh]

Prosecutors allege that children aged 6 months...were raped

Yuck.
How does that work?
Not sure if I want to know

[Shi Huangdi]

Originally posted by Spiffor

This is an incredibly horrifying story. I wonder if it is the case that pedophiles face the same treatment in prison in France that they did in the USA.

Don't worry, we'll probably treat them worse, except for the death row thing. We have the dubious honour to be the only country that has ever been condemned for torture in its prisons by the European Court of Human Rights, along with Turkey

I suppose it is wrong to wish pain upon another human being, even when it is people like this.

[Spiffor]

BTW, I'm sorry if I look that I don't care about the kids, because it's not how I feel.

But I have been so gut-wrenchingly disgusted by the previous scandals that I now end up focusing more on the alleged culprits than on the victims (who are most certainly real). I guess I was deeply disturbed by the perspective that absolutely anybody could have his whole life destroyed by a Kafkaian justice and a vigilante mob. And by "anybody", it includes me and my loved ones.

Maybe in an overreation to this, I so want not to be part of the seething mob that I refuse to be affected by the horrible practices that'll be judged there.

[Kuciwalker]

[self biased]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker

[Spiffor]

I just scanned the French newspapers about this. I began with the commie newspaper I'm suscribed to, and I was pleasantly surprised, believing that there was an actual outrage over the Outreau trials from 9 mothes ago, and that steps would be taken to avoid both judicial mishaps and mass hysteria. Well, the first one is true (the inquirers have carefully attempted to have more proof than the denunciations of children and of a single loony adult). But the second...

On the other newspapers I scanned, a strong emphasis was put on the monstrous acts perpetrated, and the journalists didn't use the word "allegedly" at all. Guilty until proven innocent I guess
Besides, when I saw that the full names weren't revealed, I was glad, because I believed it was to protect the anonymity of the accused. How wrong I was: the only reason why the full names aren't published is because doing so would reveal the identity of the children. If it wasn't for that, there would be a full-speed villification of the accused already

[Kassiopeia]

-- Spiffor's recount of how alleged paedophilia throws away the standards of Western law --

I've encountered a similar phenomenon in the Finnish press. A 21 year old man has been arrested for the murder of a "beautiful girl", a 19 year old model. The headlines scream "Why did Henkka kill her?" (the arrested guy is called Henri, his nickname is Henkka), even though the judicial process has only barely started.

[pchang]

So the key is to commit crimes against old ugly people.

[Kassiopeia]

Yes. That reminds me of the good old Onion article, headlined "Ugly 12 Year Old Girl Killed, Nobody Cares" or something to that effect.

[Bosh]

Originally posted by Spiffor
I just scanned the French newspapers about this. I began with the commie newspaper I'm suscribed to, and I was pleasantly surprised, believing that there was an actual outrage over the Outreau trials from 9 mothes ago, and that steps would be taken to avoid both judicial mishaps and mass hysteria. Well, the first one is true (the inquirers have carefully attempted to have more proof than the denunciations of children and of a single loony adult). But the second...

On the other newspapers I scanned, a strong emphasis was put on the monstrous acts perpetrated, and the journalists didn't use the word "allegedly" at all. Guilty until proven innocent I guess
Besides, when I saw that the full names weren't revealed, I was glad, because I believed it was to protect the anonymity of the accused. How wrong I was: the only reason why the full names aren't published is because doing so would reveal the identity of the children. If it wasn't for that, there would be a full-speed villification of the accused already

Considering that many of the accused have already admitted to rape and child prostitution I'm not shedding any tears for the "villified."

[duke o' york]

La fille qui fait la metéo de Nulle Part Ailleurs constitue la preuve incontestable que la France n'est pas, ne sera jamais, et n'était jamais "evil".

Unfortunately I have to rely on Spiffor to provide a picture, because I can't remember her name.
But let's never again have a thread with such a misleading title!

[Pave]

Again those kind of news that I could have lived without.

[Atahualpa]

So why did you click on the link?