Do you think in 20 years US television will get this far?

[alva]

Bugger, in 20 years, we're still gonna have **** like this on our television?

[LordShiva]

Do you think in 20 years this thread will still be getting posts?

[alva]

Yeah, I'm sure you'll find some reason to dig it up.

[Wiglaf]

Originally posted by LordShiva
Do you think in 20 years this thread will still be getting posts?

Asher there is no way this **** will fly, not in 20 years or ever. Yes black people were not popular and now everyone loves them, but that is different because people realized there is nothing unnatural about being black. The problem homosexuality has is that it will never be natural, there will always be people who consider it to be eww, and hence the only popular gay shows will continue to be Queer as **** and Will and Grace and the Macy's parade.

[Kuciwalker]

[Q Classic]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Do you think there will ever be a similar US show, a "realistic" teen drama?

Already has been one. It was called "Freaks and Geeks" and was canceled due to low ratings. Though I don't know if they had any gay characters on it (didn't really watch it too much).

No gay characters, but there was a female who was born a hermaphrodite.

Re: Desperate Housewives, Bree's son is a regular recurring character, and is gay. He was the one who was with his boyfriend--and the whole coming out bit was a major plot point behind the relationship between Bree and her (troubled) son.

EDIT:

Haha! I realized I posted in here already. My post did make me recall the gay math teacher so, yes. One gay character, but they didn't really do all that much with him.

[Q Classic]

Homosexuality is natural. There's ample precedent for it in the animal kingdom.

Of course, don't let facts, reason, and science get in the way of religious-based "morality" that leads to distaste, and in extreme cases, hate.

[Wiglaf]

Homosexuality is natural. There's ample precedent for it in the animal kingdom.

There's also ample precedent for psychopaths, deaf people and pedophiles, they are aberrations who will never get popular on TV.

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by Whoha
Absolutely, US TV has just gone down hill for the longest time, and will continue its slide. and now that you guys have done it the idea will no doubt be stolen.

trolling or bad taste? As bad as TV has been lately I remember it being much much worse. Unless you're bemoaning the continued presence of reality TV but even then there were game shows for decades and thats was just a variation on reality tv.

The best shows on now and in the last decade or so totally blow anything from the earlier decades out of the water.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
Re: Desperate Housewives, Bree's son is a regular recurring character, and is gay. He was the one who was with his boyfriend--and the whole coming out bit was a major plot point behind the relationship between Bree and her (troubled) son.

Yeah, and when they actually used the "gay" storyline it was to torment Bree. Now, two season later, the only time Andrew is used is as a distant supporting character for his mother.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Asher
I saw that show also. It, like Buffy, was all about 20something actors playing teens. My So Called Life was also cancelled and unsuccessful, which is kinda the point. Degrassi is Canada's most watched drama.

I think the big dramas in the US currently (well, before the writers strike) were CSI and its clones. Not exactly fertile grounds to examine any relationships, heterosexual or homosexual.

I know "The Office" has Oscar, a gay employee, but most of his sexual orientation is used to show how bigoted Michael Scott, the boss, actually is. Otherwise, its mostly a non-issue, which is what I think gay people would like it to be in the workplace.

[Elok]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
There's also ample precedent for psychopaths, deaf people and pedophiles, they are aberrations who will never get popular on TV.

...er, I'd say at least ten percent of the people on TV display strong sociopathic traits.

Since I last posted in this thread I saw "the L word" on free preview. It was only one episode, but what I saw was:

-hot chicks rubbing up against each other
-hot chicks acting indignant over homophobic remarks
-hot chicks rubbing up against each other some more

I guess that's progress for gay people, of sorts. Wasn't there some show called "Queer as folk" on some cable network a while ago?

[Asher]

Yes. The US version was much more subdued compared to the UK version, but it was a good show.

It, like the L Word, is a cable show though...

[b etor]

degrassi

[MikeH]

UK teen show Skins has a realistic, well written gay character. He's just one of the bunch of friends, and one of the themes is how his moslem best friend deals with the fact his best friend is gay and the conflict with his religion.

It's actually a really great show and the actors are all teenagers.

Although this profile of him is a bit dumb:

http://www.e4.com/skins/profile-maxxie.html