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Just having some idle thoughts before I get ready for work. Are you an absolutist or a relativist when you judge issues? Can everything be reduced to right & wrong, or is everything a shade of grey? I tend to think most issues are relative, but there are a few biggies that are black and white. I was just wondering what everyone else thought.
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47EVERYTHING is black & white. If you think it isn't, you just don't have all the facts yet.2.13%1Most issues are black and white, but a few are grey.8.51%4Most everything is shades of grey, but some issues are definitely black and white.46.81%22It's all grey, baby. It's ALL relative.36.17%17It's yellow, kind of like a...6.38%3 -
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Are you colour blind, dude?Only feebs vote.Comment
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Amusingly enough, yes.Originally posted by Agathon
Are you colour blind, dude?Comment
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Not only is everything black and white, I can play "Turkey in the Straw" by cranking Mr. Billy Goat's tail since he swallowed Minnie's violin and sheet music. I've even learned to rhythmically abuse the other animals so they make noises of protest to the tune. But we have to watch out, that mean captain's trying to ruin our fun.
Er, ahem, I mean, uh...Comment
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There are very, VERY FEW "black and white" issues. Everything else is certainly grey.
Simple black and white issue? genocide. Rape.
Not murder, cause murder is defined as "unlawfull killing", which of course is predicated on what is "lawfull killing".
Everything bellow that certainly EDIT grey (had a little mistake here...), even if the shades sometimes come close to one state or the other.Last edited by GePap; February 17, 2005, 11:26.If you don't like reality, change it! me
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It's all grey. Some things are very dark or very light grey.Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?
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AgreeOriginally posted by GePap
There are very, VERY FEW "black and white" issues. Everything else is certainly grey.
Again agree although there are many cases where the facts are very very far from black and whiteOriginally posted by GePap
Simple black and white issue? genocide. Rape.
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I think absolutely everything is relative.
Genocide and rape are just very very very very very extreme on the relativity scale."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "Comment
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There is a point were being so close to 1 or 0 is 1 or 0.If you don't like reality, change it! me
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"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
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Only with rounding errors.Originally posted by GePap
There is a point were being so close to 1 or 0 is 1 or 0."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Colours, especially greyscale, are a dramatic oversimplification of the world around us. So I'll opt for yellow
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No absolute white, no absolute black in this world, but there are a lot of things that I decide to call "white" or "black".
No sheet of paper is really white, but from a certain level of whiteness, I will name some "white" and other "not-white".
The border will be dependent of my own subjectivity and the usage I have of that sheet.
And the fact that I say "This paper sheet is white" does not mean that I truely believe it is completely and absolutely white. It only means that all things considered, the existing, very tiny, black spots are irrelevants.
So, despite the fact that all things are grey, I think it is usefull to name the whitests ones "white" and the blackest ones "black",The books that the world calls immoral are the books that show the world its own shame. Oscar Wilde.Comment
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If you can find a black and white issue to begin with maybe you'll get a black and white answer.Comment
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