Cooking for vegetarians....

[FredKarno]

opinion

Veggies are falses. Don't they see that everything that we humans do destroys other lives. How many veggies drive around in motor cars? Lots I reckon. Loads and loads of greed by veggies just like non-veggies. Really bad hypocrisy. This is a great evil. I don't like western veggies. They are like rich folk in places like India that pretend that they are Jains.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Asmodean
Tass and DRoseDARs:

I know that you're right, and that that is of course the way that I'll be handling it, but still....I don't know....

Maybe it's just me, or maybe it's just that it's so different a situation to be dealing with, but I still feel that in general you eat what's put in front of you.

And to General Ludd: No...I always eat what's served: I once a plate full of live shrimps in soy sauce...no kidding.

Asmodean

there are two main situations

if you don't like something

if you are allergic to something

if you were allergic to some food, surely you wouldn't eat it if it was put before you

although you say you do eat it if you don't like it

vegeterrianism is more like allergic

Jon Miller

[korn469]

Well I'm a vegetarian and I've been one for over 10 years, so I've had more than one meal made up of side dishes in that time. It was her boyfriend's responsibility to inform you of her eating perferences for the previous occasion. In the future, I think the polite thing would be to make sure that she has at least one main dish available in vegetarian form. You don't have to do this, my grandmother still doesn't realize that I don't eat meat, but I'm sure she would appreciate the effort. Isn't pleasing your visitors with good food, comfortable surroundings, and appropriate entertainment the job description of a good host?

To me I don't know if I would ever voluntarily eat meat again. If I was stranded on an island with only a pallet full of tuna to keep me going, I'd probably eat meat, but I'm not sure. In this age of vegetarians, atkin diets, and food allergies eating everything put on your plate isn't the norm. Expecting that behavior out of others will lead to disappointment and frustration on your part.

[Provost Harrison]

Re: Cooking for vegetarians....

Originally posted by Asmodean
So, we had a dinner party with some friends last night (we do that a lot in our circles). My wife and I had invited 2 other couples, and as it was my turn to cook, I decided to make what I like best: Entrecôtes in oregano and tomato sauce, with oven-cooked potatoes and a mushroom/onion salad cooked in red-wine.

My good friend, Jorgen, is recently divorced, and he brought his new girlfriend. As I served the food, he and the new girlfriend grew suddenly very silent. Naturally, I asked if something was wrong, and he said: "Didn't you know that Tina is a vegetarian?"

I didn't, really I didn't. Perhaps he had mentioned it, perhaps he hadn't. I honestly can't remember. And as I hadn't prepared any vegetarian food, she had to eat only potatoes and the small side-dish of mushrooms and onions.

Afterwards, I got to thinking. So what if she is a vegetarian? Why should I care?? Where I come from, you eat what's on the table. Period. Naturally, I tried to smooth things over, and apologize, but I really felt that I shouldn't be. Apologizing, that is.

I happen to hate musles and calamari, and most other kinds of sea-food, except fish, but if I were at a party, and I was served sea-food, I would eat it, because that's what you do. Why is it, that vegetarians are different? I know people who cook vegetarian food, if they know that a guest is vegetarian, or at least cook something for that person only, but I just don't agree with that idea. You eat what is served. If you don't happen to like it, you eat only a little. But to deny eating something at a dinner-party, for what-ever reason...now that's just plain impolite.

Am I wrong here, guys? Should I relent, and cook something special for her, the next time they come over. It's not that I have anything against vegetarians or for that matter against her. It's just that I don't get it. Does the fact that vegetarians don't eat meat as a matter of principle give them special priviledges, that the rest of us don't enjoy. Please give me your opinion.

Asmodean

It is a problem. I can virtually eat anything but the shellfish one would probably stop me in my tracks. If it was something like oysters I would vomit during eating them. And anything containing liver...that will make me projectile vomit. But most people cooking for a group of people who they don't know too well would probably steer clear of some of these things anyway...although anything with normal meat is fine by me. You should have just grumbled and mentioned something to do with starving Africans, would have worked a treat

[Tuberski]

I say cook something vegetarian for her next, but if you are invited to her place, make sure she knows that you are not a vegetarian and that you expect a meal with meat in it made just for you.

Otherwise she shouldn't expect the same.....



ACK!

[Mrs. Tuberski]

On a similar note here that tubes didnt mention when we were in utah his sister invites us to a fish bake, bar B que the only part she failed to mention was to bring your own food. steak wise that is after we bought most of the beer and ice and showed up we found out that you had to bring your own meat not fish but meat well neither he or I like fish so we had a few beers then told his sister we were going to leave she found some hamburger meat and we shared a burger there but all in the host should be informed of prefernces and then if possible request a potluck of some sort. If a guest has certian preferances

[FredKarno]

there are all sorts of veggies....

...for example, there are those who proclaim themselves so whilst happy to eat fish. I find this strange, as great big nets trap and torture all manner of creatures to death as we type. Not so strange really, as humans proclaiming themselves to be good when they are evil is a very prevelant thing.

[General Ludd]

Re: there are all sorts of veggies....

Originally posted by FredKarno
...for example, there are those who proclaim themselves so whilst happy to eat fish. I find this strange, as great big nets trap and torture all manner of creatures to death as we type.

That has little to do with them being a vegetarian or not. Vegetarian means not eating meat. Fish is meat. If you eat fish, you aren't a vegetarian.

[FredKarno]

just like socialists!

Mind you, evil is not the monopoly of these veggies and socialists. It is just that they are so perfect (sic) at presenting themselves as good.

[FredKarno]

reply to Ludd

How naive you are! All veggies are not the same. I have known people who describe themselves 'vegetarians' while still eating all manner of meats. Don't you know the contradiction of it all? It is why I liken them (you?) to socialists - they are both very broad churches that make all other religions look totally unified.

[FredKarno]

Hitler indeed

Tassader's post might be in jest yet it shows how mixed up it all is. Hitler was a veggie and liked his cream puffs(and ranted on about making the master race vegetarian after the war was won) and against hunting. I myself think that hunting other animals whith guns is pathetic. Hunting humans that are also armed is OK.

[General Ludd]

Re: reply to Ludd

Originally posted by FredKarno
How naive you are! All veggies are not the same. I have known people who describe themselves 'vegetarians' while still eating all manner of meats.

Yes, and they aren't vegetarians.

Tassader's post might be in jest yet it shows how mixed up it all is. Hitler was a veggie and liked his cream puffs(and ranted on about making the master race vegetarian after the war was won) and against hunting. I myself think that hunting other animals whith guns is pathetic. Hunting humans that are also armed is OK.

Hitler wasn't a vegetarian, although he did shy away from some meats at times, just as he was also anti-smoking and at some points in his life teetotal. but he never stopped eating meat completely. Apparently his make-believe vegetarianism was used in Nazi PR to promote him as having an image of purity, but still, he continued to eat meat.

And he was not against hunting, either. He banned fox hunting, but that was apparently because he wanted to "disenfranchise" the people who typically did it in germany, as they belonged to a certain social class or ethnic group that he didn't like.

[FredKarno]

so, comrade Ludd, veggies are what you say

Don't you see that you are just like socialists who decry other people who call themselves that.
You say that other people who calle themselves vegetarians are not so. I say to you that you that you are false also.
Do you own a motor car? Do you have a mobile phone? A telly, an electronic computer. How many things do you have?
Do you think that all the material things that you own do not contribute to the destruction of other creatures on this planet? You think you are innocent by not eating meat?

[PLATO]

Cows are vegitarians...and they taste pretty good!

[:) Smiley]

Just keep a couple of garden burgers in the freezer- five minutes, problem solved.