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    No not the imperialists in the West


    BEIJING (AFP) - Road builders demolished a large section of China's World Heritage-listed Great Wall last month in an indication of the perilous state of one of the world's best known landmarks, state media said.

    Almost 100 meters (333 feet) of the wall in northern Ningxia autonomous region was levelled in two overnight raids by construction workers who used the material to pave a road, the Ningxia Daily said.

    The destroyed area near Zhongwei city was constructed during the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644) in an region known as "the Great Wall Museum" because of the profusion of rammed earth sections of the wall.

    Less than 2,500 kilometers (1,500 miles) remain of the 6,300 kilometer long wall that was first built in the Qin Dynasty (221-206 BC). It was rebuilt in the Ming Dynasty to keep out northern tribes threatening the Chinese heartland.

    Zhongwei's public security bureau is investigating the case and has vowed that those responsible will be forced to rebuild what they demolished, the report said.

    It is not the first time the wall has been plundered for building materials in Nixgxia. Last year, a 400 metre (1,320 feet) section disappeared with the culprits never found.

    Dong Yaohui, vice president of the China Great Wall Academy, said punishments were too lax and needed to be tightened.

    He was quoted as saying that several years ago a man who plundered the wall only received an 80,000 yuan (9,666) fine, amounting to less than it would have cost to buy legal construction materials, proving no deterrent.

    The Great Wall is under such serious threat from human development across China that the central government last year took the drastic step of seizing control of it from local governments.

    Currently, the responsibility of protecting the wall, which stretches across several provinces and municipalities, is down to different local authorities.

    The wall was listed on the United Nations (news - web sites)' prestigious World Heritage List in 1987, but far from ensuring its preservation critics argue that it has only succeeded in shrouding it in a "false cloak of security".
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    This is not new under the sun. The Egyptian villagers have stripped the shiny limestone cover off the pyramids. Ancient temples in Greece have been raided during the Turkocracy and revolution to get the led reinforcements out of their pillars, for use in making bullets.
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    • #3
      There's plenty more Wall.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by axi
        This is not new under the sun. The Egyptian villagers have stripped the shiny limestone cover off the pyramids. Ancient temples in Greece have been raided during the Turkocracy and revolution to get the led reinforcements out of their pillars, for use in making bullets.
        Perhaps a myth, but I'm told a Swedish mercenary commander used the Parthenon for cannon target practice during one of the Turco-Venetian wars.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by axi
          This is not new under the sun. The Egyptian villagers have stripped the shiny limestone cover off the pyramids. Ancient temples in Greece have been raided during the Turkocracy and revolution to get the led reinforcements out of their pillars, for use in making bullets.
          If they cannot get material to build a road and have to strip the wall then that doesn't speak very highly of a modernized China.....

          then again it may be a simple matter of laziness or greed.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Last Conformist
            Perhaps a myth, but I'm told a Swedish mercenary commander used the Parthenon for cannon target practice during one of the Turco-Venetian wars.


            Well, Napoleon used the Sphynx for musket target practice. Lousy Corsican.
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            • #7
              Dong Yaohui, vice president of the China Great Wall Academy, said punishments were too lax and needed to be tightened.


              Not only the workers need to face severe sentences, but the companies they work for must also face serious punishments.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by St Leo
                Originally posted by Last Conformist
                Perhaps a myth, but I'm told a Swedish mercenary commander used the Parthenon for cannon target practice during one of the Turco-Venetian wars.


                Well, Napoleon used the Sphynx for musket target practice. Lousy Corsican.
                Both are myths.

                In the case of the Parthenon, the Turks were using it as an ammo dump, and a Venentian shell landed in it. BOOM!
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                • #9
                  Lies

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by St Leo
                    [q] [SIZE=1] Originally posted by Last Conformist
                    Well, Napoleon used the Sphynx for musket target practice. Lousy Corsican.
                    Lousy shot, anyway...
                    What?

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                    • #11
                      I for sure thought this would be some thread denouncing the west.

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                      • #12
                        Zhongwei's public security bureau is investigating the case and has vowed that those responsible will be forced to rebuild what they demolished, the report said.
                        Cool. In the original, dead workers were used as human mortar. I wonder how historically accurate the punishment will be?

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                        • #13
                          Probably just a newspaper story saying there were punishments, when nothing was done.
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                          • #14
                            Plundering China's Heritage
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sprayber


                              If they cannot get material to build a road and have to strip the wall then that doesn't speak very highly of a modernized China.....

                              then again it may be a simple matter of laziness or greed.
                              That's what happened the last time this was in the news; slapped with a fine that was still more cost-effective than just buying the damn materials in the first place.
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