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    Greenhouse effect could make Mars livable
    Study claims artificial gases would warm up climate

    The best way to make Mars habitable would be to inject synthetic greenhouse gases into its atmosphere, researchers said Thursday.

    The stuff could be shipped to Mars or manufactured there.

    Scientists and science-fiction authors have long pondered terraforming Mars, melting the vast stores of ice in its polar caps to create an environment suitable for humans. The topic is highly controversial.

    Some think earthlings have no right to mess with the climate of another planet. Others see Mars as a refuge for people who might need to flee this world as conditions deteriorate. Another argument holds that Mars was likely warmer and wetter in its distant past, and it might have harbored life, so bringing it back to a previous state makes sense.

    Among the ideas for how to warm Mars: sprinkling stuff near the poles that would absorb more sunlight, or placing large mirrors in orbit around the planet to reflect more sunlight onto it.

    Jump-start the warming
    The new research suggests that forcing global warming by injecting greenhouse gases may be the best way to terraform, should governments decide to do so. The conditions warming Earth could be harnessed to transform Mars, the scientists determined.

    Jump-starting global warming in a planet-sized laboratory would be a boon to science in some respects.

    "Bringing life to Mars and studying its growth would contribute to our understanding of evolution, and the ability of life to adapt and proliferate on other worlds," says Margarita Marinova at NASA's Ames Research Center, where the study was done. "Since warming Mars effectively reverts it to its past, more habitable state, this would give any possibly dormant life on Mars the chance to be revived and develop further."

    The research is presented in the February issue of the Journal of Geophysical Research-Planets, published by the American Geophysical Union.

    With a very thin atmosphere and being farther from the sun, Mars is much colder than Earth. There is no evidence for any liquid water presently on the surface. Liquid water is considered essential to life as we know it.

    The polar regions contain vast stores of water ice and carbon dioxide, or dry ice. Theorists have said in the past that melting the poles might thicken the atmosphere, which like a blanket would insulate the surface and eventually create a more Earthlike climate.

    Studies suggest Mars had surface water and bouts of rain in its early history.

    Gas of choice
    The new research modeled how artificially produced greenhouse gases would affect Martian temperature and melt water ice and carbon dioxide ice at the poles.

    Artificially created gases could be 10,000 times more effective than carbon dioxide in warming up the Red Planet, the study determined. The gases that would work the best contain fluorine and carbon, and could be made from elements readily available on Mars, Marinova and her colleagues found. (They said the best gas for the job would be octafluoropropane, which is used on Earth for refrigeration and semiconductor fabrication.)

    Adding 300 parts per million of the gas mixture into the Martian air would trigger a runaway greenhouse effect, according to the models. The polar ice sheets that would slowly evaporate. The newly released carbon dioxide would cause further warming and melting. Atmospheric pressure would rise.

    The process would take hundreds or thousands of years to complete, the scientists report.

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    LINK: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6908408/

    I think this is a very intriguing idea! What does everyone else think?
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    • #3
      It think Mars should be studied extensively for a long period of time before any decision for any form of deliberate terraforming is made.
      The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

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      • #4
        Re: Greenhouse effect could make Mars livable

        Originally posted by Wittlich
        I think this is a very intriguing idea! What does everyone else think?
        I,too, think it is a very intriguing idea. Also think your original post is far too long

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        • #5
          The OP is an article, therefore it is generally permitted. Besides, this isn't one of Pekka's threads...
          The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

          The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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          • #6
            Just imagine, we can suck up the greenhouse gases from earth's atmosphere, and use them to warm up Mars. Kill two birds with one stone

            I don't know how much atmospheric retention Mars has though, because it doesn't have the sort of "shield" earth has. Besides, it has a much lower mass.
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            • #7
              What for? The sun shall swallow both planets anyway
              "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
              I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
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              • #8
                In a few billion years...
                The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

                The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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                • #9
                  Humanity must build its own planet independant from any star and safe until then.
                  "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                  I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
                  Middle East!

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                  • #10
                    One step at a time...
                    (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                    (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                    (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                    • #11
                      We must have a vision!
                      A great great moveable planet in the shape of frog.
                      Does it sound right? You think it could make the crowds go crazy with joy?
                      "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                      I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
                      Middle East!

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                      • #12
                        Who is going to stand up for the Martian environment?
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                        • #13
                          I'm sure there'll be some.
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                          • #14
                            It's a cold, dead ball of rock right now.
                            (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                            (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                            (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                            • #15
                              Do cold, dead balls of rock have rights? Are you so sure that there is no down side to ecological experimentation on an entire planet? Isn't one fubar planet enough?
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