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    Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld says he twice offered President Bush his resignation during the height of the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal, but the president refused to accept it.

    In an interview to be aired Thursday night on CNN's "Larry King Live," Rumsfeld says: "I submitted my resignation to President Bush twice during that period and told him that ... I felt that he ought to make the decision as to whether or not I stayed on. And he made that decision and said he did want me to stay on."


    Well, this is certainly interesting. I think I dislike Rumsfeld less and dislike Bush more now.

  • #2
    Bush's integrity has room to grow.
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    • #3
      I'd say his integrity is high. Instead of ducking the issue and making Rumsfeld the fall guy Bush took the brunt. In an election year too.

      Audacity or balls? I call balls.

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      • #4
        I think it was quite good we kept Rumsfeld, because he's a good man who stands up against the liberal press and is a very fine defense minister, despite what the left wing says.
        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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        • #5
          If the president refuses to accept ones resignation, one should commit seppuku. Only then could one remain honourable.
          Concrete, Abstract, or Squoingy?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Harry Tuttle
            I'd say his integrity is high. Instead of ducking the issue and making Rumsfeld the fall guy Bush took the brunt. In an election year too.


            Bush resigned? I must have missed that.^-^

            But, really, ignoring an issue doesn't really count as taking the brunt.
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            • #7
              That's a gold star next to Rumsfeld's name; and a black mark next to Shrub's.

              No accountability.
              Only feebs vote.

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              • #8
                I think it was quite good we kept Rumsfeld, because he's a good man who stands up against the liberal press and is a very fine defense minister, despite what the left wing says.
                here in america, we seem to have a different definition of 'defense' then the rest of the world. rummy isnt a defense minister, hes a warmonger.
                "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
                  If the president refuses to accept ones resignation, one should commit seppuku. Only then could one remain honourable.
                  Mr. Immortal using the term "seppuku"
                  Haven't been here for ages....

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                  • #10
                    I think it was quite good we kept Rumsfeld, because he's a good man who stands up against the liberal press and is a very fine defense minister, despite what the left wing says.


                    What Liberal press?

                    You mean The Nation, which nobody reads?
                    Only feebs vote.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by St Leo
                      Originally posted by Harry Tuttle
                      I'd say his integrity is high. Instead of ducking the issue and making Rumsfeld the fall guy Bush took the brunt. In an election year too.


                      Bush resigned? I must have missed that.^-^

                      But, really, ignoring an issue doesn't really count as taking the brunt.
                      Ignoring an issue does not mean firing anyone connected to it. It was an extremely large blackmark that was acted on.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by St Leo
                        Originally posted by Harry Tuttle
                        I'd say his integrity is high. Instead of ducking the issue and making Rumsfeld the fall guy Bush took the brunt. In an election year too.


                        Bush resigned? I must have missed that.^-^

                        But, really, ignoring an issue doesn't really count as taking the brunt.
                        Well, to put it bluntly, resigning and leaving the next guy to clean up the mess wouldn't really count either.

                        Heads rolling might often make various parties feel better about themselves but realistically it rarely does much to fix a problem.

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                        • #13
                          well I guess Rumsfeld isn't as much of a jerk as I thought he was.

                          either that or a little birdy was telling him that there wasn't much chance of bush accepting a resignation because that would be an admission of wrong-doing.
                          "Wait a minute..this isn''t FAUX dive, it's just a DIVE!"
                          "...Mangy dog staggering about, looking vainly for a place to die."
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Seeker
                            well I guess Rumsfeld isn't as much of a jerk as I thought he was.

                            either that or a little birdy was telling him that there wasn't much chance of bush accepting a resignation because that would be an admission of wrong-doing.
                            Um, I think that the wrong doing was self evident. We have had trials for the perps.

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                            • #15
                              Um, I think that the wrong doing was self evident. We have had trials for the perps.


                              You mean the patsys.
                              Only feebs vote.

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