Rumsfeld and Nuclear Weapons

[Urban Ranger]

They smell bad and look different.

[child of Thor]

Neo-Cons = real evil

[MikeH]

How on earth did the Democrats lose to this lot.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Jaakko
So, the US is the only country in the 21st century that has invaded another nation.

Do you mean outside of Africa?


Or do Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo not count?

[MikeH]

Ah well, at least they're in good company!

Sadly the UK is in there too as we invaded Iraq too.

Most unAmerican gov't ever?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


Isn't anyone going to answer DD's very pertinent question?

It may not be pertinent but it interests me.

Or do Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo not count?

They aren't real countries. Didn't you know?

[GePap]

Originally posted by Oerdin
The beauty of this argument is that we end up not having to use the bunker busting nukes. That argument is the very knowledge that we can destroy these hardened structures means foreign governments are much less likely to spend the billions of dollars needed to construct them to begin with.

Again, who cares if they spend their money building bunkers- stuff in bunkers is hardly of use.

Besides, I doubt that these weapons would really stop anyone- you redesign your bunkers, or place them bellow large cities.

[chequita guevara]

BTW, nuke bunker busters are exceedingly dirty weapons. Despite the claims of proponents, they shoot a plume of radioactive debris into the air. After all, if the bomb can penetrate the ground, it leaves a hole, and guess where some of the explosion's gonna go.

[General Ludd]

Why is it deemed exceptable to irradiate the earth instead of the air, anyways?

[Pekka]

Land can be property where as air can't be?

Then again, I bet some bastards TRY to own air. Which is BS. Land I accept, air I don't.

[child of Thor]

I think what we may be seeing is a first for our world. The reactions to the percieved death-throes of the first hyper-power? Or at least some desperate moves from No1 soon to be No2 as china looms large?

As i've said all along, the whole Neo-con hi-jack of your Republican party will have a rather nasty pattern to what it decides to do.

It smells just a little too desperate to me though, like they've really got caught up in their own spin/distorted view? In a way they may well hasten what they fear most and are trying to stall with their strategies, which is partially what i think they are really about - they were 'lefties' once, maybe its a grand russian plot?

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by General Ludd
Why is it deemed exceptable to irradiate the earth instead of the air, anyways?

The radiohazards are alot more concentrated and out of the way of uninvolved people with a subterranean blast. Roughly the same reason it's, where I live at least, OK to walk around with a big axe in your hand in a forest but not on a city street.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Last Conformist

The radiohazards are alot more concentrated and out of the way of uninvolved people with a subterranean blast.

That just means you won't be able to drink the ground water for a few hundred thousand years.

[Jaakko]

Originally posted by molly bloom



Do you mean outside of Africa?


Or do Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo not count?

You got me there. To be honest, those weren't probably the only ones I missed. However, it doesn't lessen my point any.

[dannubis]

Originally posted by Last Conformist

The radiohazards are alot more concentrated and out of the way of uninvolved people with a subterranean blast. Roughly the same reason it's, where I live at least, OK to walk around with a big axe in your hand in a forest but not on a city street.

would you be as forgiving towards a nation that would use it in your neighbourhood ?