Where are the playtesters?

[kIndal]

I have uploaded the version 2.3 of the scenario, I believe it could be the final one I have made some changes to make a bit more dificult (not much) and to avoid the strange wars between allies and some strange alliances.
I think that now, everything work properly, If you can dear playtesters play for last time and if you found the last problems, plezzzz say them to me.
I will upload the sounds, too. http://www.geocities.com/indalito/30yearswar.html

[Henrik]

Excelent changes
But I have one sugestion more, since the scenario no longer functions for FW, why keep the old objective system?
As it is now you cant win whit MGE (all major objectives are discarded) and not play whit FW.
I realize that this will take a lot of work but I seriously think it is one of the last changes you will need to make.
Oh and: Aahrus is really Aarhus
I also forsee a problem whit the danish ownership of Magdeburg, remember that for certain events to function Magdeburg needs to belong to the protestants later on (maybe Magdeburg should start out as Protestant instead of staarting as danish)
[This message has been edited by Henrik (edited April 23, 2001).]

[Chris 62]

The download didn't work for me. It says there is a file error. And there is no soundfile either.

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[kIndal]

quote: But I have one sugestion more, since the scenario no longer functions for FW, why keep the old objective system? As it is now you cant win whit MGE (all major objectives are discarded)

With MGE major major objetives are really discarded? doesn´t the computer consider this cities as objetives?and can´t I use wonders as objetives?

quote: I also forsee a problem whit the danish ownership of Magdeburg, remember that for certain events to function Magdeburg needs to belong to the protestants later on (maybe Magdeburg should start out as Protestant instead of staarting as danish)

But with the event of Wallestein´s arriving to Magdeburg, I think that there is enough troops to conquer the city without problems. And then, for the sack of Magdeburg the troops who have to conquer it are Swedish, and if Imperials are defeated by Danish there is no reason for the event of Magdeburg in the future.

Chris, I have download the file a pair of times and there was no problem, so try to download one more time, and if doesn´t work i will send you by email, but it must work, i think
Sounds are ready to download

[Chris 62]

I just tried again, and my system gets the message 'cannot copy file', followed by 'file system error(1026)'. I guess you should just e-mail it to me, as the page won't let me download from it.

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[Henrik]

quote: Originally posted by kIndal on 04-24-2001 02:48 AM With MGE major major objetives are really discarded? doesn´t the computer consider this cities as objetives?and can´t I use wonders as objetives?

This is what I've read:
Major objectives wont work for MGE (check the scores for an easy waqy of finding out) normal objectives work and wonder objectives work.
This is easy to check as I said before, but atleast my version wont count in major objectives...

quote: Originally posted by kIndal on 04-24-2001 02:48 AM But with the event of Wallestein´s arriving to Magdeburg, I think that there is enough troops to conquer the city without problems. And then, for the sack of Magdeburg the troops who have to conquer it are Swedish, and if Imperials are defeated by Danish there is no reason for the event of Magdeburg in the future.

But is there a way of making sure that the imperials will declare war on denmark?
The event only declares war against the protestants.

[kIndal]

quote: Originally posted by Henrik on 04-24-2001 08:57 AM But is there a way of making sure that the imperials will declare war on denmark? The event only declares war against the protestants.

In Danish phase (events2)there is a event:
@IF
TURN
turn=71
@THEN
TEXT
Christian held at Lauenberg a conclave of his supporters within the Lower Saxon Circle. They
determined to raise an army to be placed under ChristianÃs command.
ENDTEXT
CREATEUNIT
unit=Prince
owner=Danish
veteran=yes
homecity=None
locations
51,69
endlocations
MAKEAGGRESSION
who=Danish
whom=Imperials
@ENDIF

The event of the sack of Magdeburg is in events3

[Henrik]

Two more things then:
Edimburg=Edinburgh
and the Swedish only start out whit 210 gold
I think you should consider adding a little more gold to them...
[This message has been edited by Henrik (edited April 24, 2001).]

[kIndal]

I have made the changes in major objetives, i hope now it works properly.

Chris, I have sent you the scenario replying to cpoulos@gobi.com but I have remembered that you have a new adress cpoulos@visto.com; Do I have to send it again?

[Chris 62]

I got it. My old account still seems to recieve messages, but this is only temporary. When we reset the system here at work, all the old accounts will go dead for good, so please use the visto account. I'll send some saves in a few days, I want to try the new version first.

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[Henrik]

quote: Originally posted by kIndal on 04-24-2001 09:49 AM I have made the changes in major objetives, i hope now it works properly.

Did you upload them unto your site?

[kIndal]

quote: Originally posted by Henrik on 04-24-2001 01:26 PM Did you upload them unto your site?

Yes I have done it

[Henrik]

One minor "bug" is still there, the swedish starts out whit to little cash (200 gold).
Imho they should have atleast a thousand to start whit.
The french also starts out whit a very small amount of cash (600 gold).
Most players starts whit a little more than a thousand, why should the swedes and frenchmen be different?
Also as I said before there are typos :
Edimburg--->Edinburgh
Frankfort--->Frankfurt

In the game I am currently playing I've reached 1621 and prague is still indpenedent...
A move unit command for all turn of imperial activity should be there I think.
[This message has been edited by Henrik (edited April 26, 2001).]

[kIndal]

I have give to Swedish a little more, but only towon nations have more than thousand I have reduced it.

Frankfort--->Frankfurt
No, it is Frankfort, Frankfort am Oder, You say Frankfurt am Main, they are diferent cities.

There is 3 or 4 moveunits commands but no one work as I ´d hope, I try to make a bit diferent