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[kIndal]

I have quited the alpine power to Favourites.
I believed that French and Spanish are with vendetta each other, I have changed it.
What do you think about the domain3 for fortress? It doesn´t conviced me very much.
Shaka, knowing as you play, I am surprised that you haven´t conquered all Europe
I think that could be a bit easy for playing, if I make defensive units stronger....What do you think?
City´s names corrected

[Waku]

Phase 1 - Playing Danish:
-I had to restore the order in Brunswick, this Germans had to know who's the boss now.
-With the help of Commercial Docks I'll be able to improve my Army.
-As I suspected I was sneak attacked by Swedish, They didn't take me by surprise. One of my convincing priest duly taught the people of Stralsund who's to be honoured as their King ME!.
-They did it again, someone should taught them a lesson! the shape of my economy allowed me to afford the costs to explain to the population in Kalmar that they weren't in Sweden any longer. In the meanwhile I keep my army increasing and unharmed in Northern Germany (just in case).
-French are always in War, Imperials, Spanish and now Swedish (they haven't built yet the Moulin Rouge .
-Independents attacked one of my Caravans to Kiev, excuse more than enough to attack Kolberg.
-While Polish & Swedish are having fun together I took advantage to fortify/reinforce/evangelize Stralsund and Kolberg.
-Polish realized there was not Coastal frotress in Aarhus and attacked me by surprise. Once again I used diplomatic means to conquest a city (Danzig). I had an Army in Kolberg, but my units are too valuable to be sacrified. I've surrounded Stettin (Swedish), now I only have to wait to be
attacked by them.
-As soon as Franco-Swedish War ended my neibourghs sneak attacked me again (these guys will never learn) guess what... yes, Stettin bribed . Now I feel quite comfortable in N/Germany as to take a look to Scandinavia where my Norway cities are now ready to massively produce units.
-Ha! Now that Swedish are getting into troubles with Polish, come to me asking for help. What they don't know is that I'm gonna exterminate them both, at least if Northern Germany keeps quite.

[Chris 62]

I just installed the latest update, and the batch file thing works now. The Merchant ship values are now zero attack, so that is also fixed. Spain's attitude towards France changed from friendly to all out war, so I can now campaign against a real power. The events for others seem to be working fine, but I have yet to see one for France (Game date is early 1622). A note: I don't review the events file before I test, because I want to be surprised by events, if any. After I complete a scenario I am testing, I look to see if the events malfunctioned in a scenario.

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[Henrik]

Waku, I would really like to play this scenario multiplayer whit you (and I wont bribed into submission as easily).
I think it would be really interesting...
Infact as I have stated before I think that all nations in the war being played by humans in a gigantic multiplayer effort would be pretty cool (although I realize that this is probably not possible since not everyone has the time or the connection for such an effort ).

[Henrik]

quote: Originally posted by kIndal on 04-17-2001 04:29 PM I have quited the alpine power to Favourites. I believed that French and Spanish are with vendetta each other, I have changed it. What do you think about the domain3 for fortress? It doesn´t conviced me very much. Shaka, knowing as you play, I am surprised that you haven´t conquered all Europe I think that could be a bit easy for playing, if I make defensive units stronger....What do you think? City´s names corrected

Making a fortress a domain 3 (not selectable in the editor where 0-2 is all you can chose from) will make it a ground unit that can fly, meaning that if you make a fortress whit 0 movement domain 3 the only effects will be that it cant be moved by boat.
And if you take away alpine flag from favourites then remove it from Jesuites as well, please...

[Waku]

quote: Originally posted by Henrik on 04-18-2001 01:45 AM ...and I wont bribed into submission as easily...

I'm taking too much advantage of diplomacy in my game, I think it should be changed somehow, but I don't really know which would be the best way (more expensive units, palaces, democracy, ...)

On the other hand I think danish/swedish aren't very focused to German affairs, at least not as much as they should be imho. What about an scandinavian alliance? perhaps it's not historically accurate (not sure, Henrik help! ) but this would probably make them forget their rivalities and pay a bit more attention to Germany/Poland. I also think danish map should reveal the whole German Empire.

[kIndal]

quote: Originally posted by Waku on 04-18-2001 06:09 AM I will removed the alpine power to diplomating units, and I will make them more expensive. [quote] On the other hand I think danish/swedish aren't very focused to German affairs, at least not as much as they should be imho. What about an scandinavian alliance? perhaps it's not historically accurate (not sure, Henrik help! ) but this would probably make them forget their rivalities and pay a bit more attention to Germany/Poland. I also think danish map should reveal the whole German Empire.

Yes, I think so, in Danish Player don´t mind a lot, because they were defeated very quickly and they hadn´t no more importance in German wars, but in Swedish, it is more important problem, but I hope that they will involve more with the event of Swedish phase. Does this happend????
Other problem are the Spanish who don´t usually attack Nehterlands and develop their power in mediteranean sea.
Any ideas to solve it???
What about the Catalonian, Portuguese revolutions?do they happend correctly?
What about the idea of making the defence units stronger?

[kIndal]

i don´t know the way but i have write a sentence into the quote

I will removed the alpine power to diplomating units, and I will make them more expensive. ok?

[Chris 62]

quote: Originally posted by kIndal on 04-18-2001 08:25 AM What about the idea of making the defence units stronger?

I not so sure about this. As it is, only siege artillery seem to be able to survive an attack against a fortress in a city. As it is, I am forced to build many siege guns. Fr. Musketeers are useless. Defense is low, and attack is not enough to justify building any. I think that skilled players wouldn't bother building this type of unit at all.


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[Henrik]

I thought so about my musketeers too at first.
But then I realized that when they are veterans they are good as units used for attacking out of cities and they usually survive a winning better than a dragoon (if its a though fight).
I still wouldn't change the defence values if I where you Jesús...

[Waku]

Phase 2 playing Danish
-Here Polish seem to have taken the baton from Swedish as they have expanded a lot through russia/ucraina. I responded their agression by capturing Königsberg & Libau in combined amphibious assaults (Dragons and Ind Musketeers).
-I've founded Holstebro in N/Jutland.
-Imperials activated their alliance w/Spanish. Spain declares war on me, but after a friendly negotiation with the Cardinal-Infans they signed peace to me.
-Swedish attacked me, I had to bribe Jönköping and invade Dagö (against my will ).
-Imperials attacked Minden from Münster and Willstein attacked Magdeburg, although I still hold those cities my army suffered lots of casualties (My Baltic plans will have to wait). Polish have recovered Libau (this city wasn't connected by road to Königsberg ).
-I've finally managed to destroy Münster fortifications, the assault was even easier.
-Cologne wasn't so easy, some casualties.
-Something funny: Spanish & Polish signed a secret alliance against Protestant, two turns later Spain declares war to Polish
-Swedish sneak attacked I occuped Aabo.
-Mainz! Bloody assault indeed!
-Spanish & Polish did again the funny thing
-Trier was easier than Mainz

(spelling: reads: "siegue cannon" should read: "siege cannon")

[Chris 62]

Forget what I said about Musketeers. I just realized they are Marines. I will need them for sea assaults.

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[Waku]

Phase 3 playing Danish:
-Everyone got units from events except me
-Messy Diplomacy: I've signed peace with Imperials
-Spain declares War on Imperials
-Protestants asked me to declare war on Polish (I agreed )
-I occuped Reval & bribed Pernau but I couldn't take Posen nor Thorn (I've underestimated these Polish).
-Protestants & Imperials sign a secret alliance against ME!
-Protestants declared war on me
-I've taken Cassel but I'm getting too weak!!
-Aaaarghhh!!!! Too many polish! Danzig & Königsberg are being massively attacked by Polish. Fortunately their only Baltic Seaport is Riga and I can embark defensive units from Scandinavia.
-Ha! Polish bribed Königsberg! They forced me to make war to Swedish, I was planning attack Göteborg a long time ago.
-Bloody Hell!!! I've lost most of my scandinavian army in Göteborg.
-Polish & Spanish sign a secret alliance against ME!
-I nearly lost Trier & Mainz by a swedish army from nowhere! I've taken Örebro.
-I've lost Libau to the Polish! but I bribed back Königsberg

[N35t0r]

you need MGE to play the scenario, right?

[Henrik]

quote: Originally posted by Waku on 04-19-2001 11:41 AM Phase 3 playing Danish: -Everyone got units from events except me

But the swedish gets units from events for the first time in this period...