Scenarios you would like to have played but couldn't...

[Jay Bee]

... because they have not been written (yet)

So people, tell me about those events in history (of Spain preferably) that have not been painted in Civ2 style yet!!!

(I know ain't easy question after the works of Kindal Jasev and myself (and Fiera if he ever finishes his Pizarro scen ) )

Waku: anything on the works?

Shaka: info on Gran Capi?

[Chris 62]

How about a PININSULAR WAR scenario? Or how about an anciet one about the early colonies and people in Spain(The time before Celts and Iberians). How about the Paraguayian war? Guess which one I would like to see most!

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All knowledge begins with the phrase: I don't know.

[jasev]

quote: 1)Rodrigo Díaz de Vivar, "El Cid" (AOEII: The conquerors has a campaign about him)

An there is also a movie about him (Charlton Heston at his best) El Cid already appears in my Al-Andalus, so this topic has actually been touched

quote: 2)Independence War, from 2nd May 1808 to Arapiles.

Yes. This missing is a shame. I was working on that long ago... wait, I told this story many times.

quote: 3)Almogávers in Greece (this could be my next scenario, but it's too soon to say it)

A good one. I thought on this for a long time but never found enough material to write it with a minimal historical basis. You should go for this!!!

quote: 4)The moors invading Spain (Guadalete, 711 AC)

Ain't bad either.

quote: 5)The Third Carlist War (sorry, I had to say it)

he,he... you really think this stuff is meaty enough? Yes, yo do

quote: 6)The Castilian civil war between Juana "la Beltraneja" and Isabel "la Católica"

I believe Fiera might have something to say about this


PS: Sorry jasev I edited your post instead of replying to it with a quote. I am so sorry. I do not know what I am doing wrong cos this is not the first time I mess up with postings by others. At least your original posting survived in blue


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[Jay Bee]

quote: Originally posted by cpoulos on 02-07-2001 10:11 AM How about a PININSULAR WAR scenario?

Somehow I was expecting this from you

quote: Or how about an anciet one about the early colonies and people in Spain(The time before Celts and Iberians).

well, there is really not much info about this. I guess you are referring to the mythical kingdom of Tartessos? Some historians even doubt that Tartessos even existed (where was it?)

quote: How about the Paraguayian war?

We were not there already, were we?

[Chris 62]

quote: Originally posted by Jay Bee on 02-07-2001 11:10 AM We were not there already, were we?

I might have missed it.


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All knowledge begins with the phrase: I don't know.

[kIndal]

-Peninsular War.
-Italian campaigns (there is somebody working in it, isn´t it?).
-The Great Armada.
-War of Spanish Succession (well, in fact, i started it some time ago and i made the middle of the work , graphics, all cities placed,ect, if somebody want to continue or finish it send me a email ).
-The expanding of kingdom of Aragon.
-Muslims Civil war in Al Andalus.
-A future civil war (there is an American book about it).

and.............

MY NEW GREAT UPDATE OF 30 YEARS WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!
(top secret)

[Jay Bee]

quote: Originally posted by kIndal on 02-07-2001 04:27 PM -Peninsular War.

Again this

quote: -Italian campaigns (there is somebody working in it, isn´t it?).

yup

quote: -The Great Armada.

hard to design I think

quote: -War of Spanish Succession (well, in fact, i started it some time ago and i made the middle of the work , graphics, all cities placed,ect, if somebody want to continue or finish it send me a email ).

Yep, another good one that is missing from our archives

quote: -The expanding of kingdom of Aragon.

Also mentioned by jasev. lemme repeat, a very good one.

quote: -Muslims Civil war in Al Andalus.

Mandeee???

quote: -A future civil war (there is an American book about it).

Again: mandeee???

quote: and............. MY NEW GREAT UPDATE OF 30 YEARS WAR!!!!!!!!!!!! (top secret)

he, he

Ps. Creo que esta vez no la he jodio y he replicado bien

[Prometeus]

I'm working on Cerdeña, kIndal... Sorry, but Carroz were a lot bad as generals...

[Fiera]

Yes, the Pizarro scn is the first item in my civ-related list , so expect it soon...

As some of you, I also have a Castile & Aragón scenario almost done (no events yet), basically dealing with the Mediterranean expansion of Aragon and the strengthening of Castile in Spain. It goes from 1230 to 1492, but I think it's too complex and long so I may finally split it into two different scenarios: the eastern expansion of Aragon and the definitive union of Castile & Aragon under the Catholic Kings...

What do you think about it?

Besides, El Cid and El Gran Capitán surely deserve their own scenarios... As I told Shaka once, I myself started making a Gran Capitán scenario when I even didn't have FW, long ago... It was very difficult to depict the complexity of the Italian politics (Kingdom of Naples, Pontificial States with their own independant rebel lords inside it, Republics of Florence and Siena, Dukedoms of Ferrar and Milan, etc...) so I finally gave up. I hope Shaka will make it.

El Cid might be an easier shot... I see it as an adventure scn, starting when El Cid is forced to leave Castile (el destierro, para que me entendáis)...

[Jay Bee]

quote: Originally posted by Fiera on 02-07-2001 05:09 PM As I told Shaka once, I myself started making a Gran Capitán scenario when I even didn't have FW, long ago... It was very difficult to depict the complexity of the Italian politics (Kingdom of Naples, Pontificial States with their own independant rebel lords inside it, Republics of Florence and Siena, Dukedoms of Ferrar and Milan, etc...) so I finally gave up.

Fiera... fuiste tu entonces el que me escribio hace tiempo e incluso me llego a mandar un mapa de N.Italia? Perdi toda la correspondencia con esa persona en uno de mis lamentables computer crash y nunca mas volvi a saber de el

[Fiera]

quote: Originally posted by Jay Bee on 02-07-2001 05:41 PM Fiera... fuiste tu entonces el que me escribio hace tiempo e incluso me llego a mandar un mapa de N.Italia? Perdi toda la correspondencia con esa persona en uno de mis lamentables computer crash y nunca mas volvi a saber de el

No, yo no fui... el mapa que usé incluía toda Italia, es (después de modificarlo un poco) el que está en mi página web como Western Mediterranean...

Aunque sí fuiste la primera persona del mundillo este con la que me puse en contacto por e-mail...

[Geography Dan]

Well, this is more Portugal than Spain, but there isn't a Portuguese Civ2 site.


The Portuguese Admiral Albequerque (sp?) in the Indian Ocean.

[kIndal]

-The great Armada could be dificult, but no imposible, perhaps someday...(very far)
-In Al-Andalus were some civil wars, one of the most importants, the Oman Ben Hafsun against Omeyans(se dice asi omeyas? , then with the finishing of the Caliphate of Cordobe everybody kwon the Taifas´ kingdoms, and of course they fought between themselves. And then a different invasion from the south: Almoravids. I think that our history of the Reconquista (the same for the crusades) has a hard Christian point of view, but muslims have their own wars similar to feudal wars. Maybe it will be my next scenario (in the future ).
-About a future civil war, someday y heard that a American guy wrote a book about it, I remenber "After the war in Balkans, Spain is the next, Catalonia and Basque country has started a revolt against Spanish rule, and an Andalusian general, called Fernandez (iám sure that with a big Mexican moustage) make a coup and named himself as Dictator..." (todo muy españolista, seguro que la guerra acaba con un baile flamenco o una corrida de toros en España(provincia del sur de Mexico). Well, the idea could be interesting, but i don´t like so much making Fictional scenarios (well my first,first,first scenario was the conquest of Mars, i think that there is some old webpage which have it I think that you don´t know it)

Fiera, a ver que estamos todos esperando tus escenarios, yo especialmente el de la expansion de Aragon, que como no te des prisa...(era una de mis futuras ideas ), terminaaaaaaa!!!!!!!
Todos sabemos que la verdadera razon por la que no acabas los escenarios es para que no te los critiquemos por aqui pero hijo de mi alma, eso es como una especie de iniciacion, todo pasamos por ahi, al principio duele, pero te acostumbras con el tiempo.

MAL ROLLO, SON LAS 7:57 DE LA MAÑANA, ME HE LEVANTADO TEMPRANO PA REPASAR EL EXAMEN DE DENTRO DE UN RATO Y YA VEIS QUE ESTOY HACIENDO (FIERA TU SEGURO QUE TE SOLIDARIZAS CONMIGO)

[Prometeus]

quote: Originally posted by kIndal on 02-08-2001 01:58 AM Omeyans(se dice asi omeyas? )

Let's use arabic, then... Banu 'Ummaya.

[Jay Bee]

quote: Originally posted by kIndal on 02-08-2001 01:58 AM (well my first,first,first scenario was the conquest of Mars, i think that there is some old webpage which have it I think that you don´t know it)

Oh yes, we do. It's in the Apolyton Database


PS. Omeyas in English is Ummayads