What was Spain's greatest battle?

[Chris 62]

quote: Originally posted by Jay Bee on 01-24-2001 08:17 AM PS. You seem to know my scens well What is the one you like more? PPS. Are you Greek, American or both?

A few answers from my humble(Yeah,that's a laugh!)self: I love many of your scenarios(but not all, but that's for another time), but my favorite is Al-Andalus. I got a better understanding of the Reconquista from that scenario then in four years in college. I even won it as the Navarres(I didn't post it because I cheated: I changed the number of units under fundy that are free from 0 to 10!). Sneaky, but loads of fun nonetheless! My father is Greek, and my mother is(gasp, don't say it on the spanish site!) English. I have been a sneaky (I.E. not registered), watcher of apoly for years, but to humble(That again?!?) to join untill recently. I'm the guy that always asks for a Peninsular war scenario in your guestbook! One other thing about the topic(What was it again?): Cortez's victory cannot be diminished by the fact that the Aztecs did not understand metalworking. This is a tactical advantage of some measure, but men must still fight with a will to win agaisnt overwhelming odds. Remember the Italian failure in Ethopia in the 19th century, and the defeat of the british at Isandlwana against the Zulus(Roake's drift is another story). Now a question from me: What are you working on now?

[Fiera]

quote: Originally posted by Jay Bee on 01-24-2001 08:17 AM What Pizarro did with the Incas was even more astounding imho. Regrettably, when you praise those events people usually regard you as an imperialistic guy with no concern for human rights and blah, blah, blah... and that's not the point at all.

I couldn't agree more... There's not a single conqueror in the whole human history like Francisco Pizarro... and I don't give a damn if it isn't PC...

[Jay Bee]

quote: Originally posted by cpoulos on 01-24-2001 09:00 AM I love many of your scenarios(but not all, but that's for another time)

Oh no, I think this is important! Use personal messages or private e-mail if you wish to keep it private but let me know anyway.

quote: but my favorite is Al-Andalus. I got a better understanding of the Reconquista from that scenario then in four years in college.

Historically-wise I agree that this is probably the best one.

quote: I even won it as the Navarres(I didn't post it because I cheated: I changed the number of units under fundy that are free from 0 to 10!). Sneaky, but loads of fun nonetheless!

Cheater!!! You've gotta try again honestly ;D

quote: and my mother is(gasp, don't say it on the spanish site!) English.

Oh do not worry about that. Englishmen must be accostumed to the fact that they are only loved in England ). So you are like Counselor Troy or George Michael, uh? (just kidding)

quote: I'm the guy that always asks for a Peninsular war scenario in your guestbook!

so you're the famous Al? I would have never guessed it!

quote: What are you working on now?

Can't tell yet, sorry. I will soon.

[Chris 62]

Troi all the way, but don't tell my girlfriend! She thinks I only watch the show for it's story content! I'll send an e-mail about scenario reviews.

[This message has been edited by cpoulos (edited January 24, 2001).]

[The Hogfather]

Actually, Pizarro and Cortes did little... they allied themselves with the oppressed tribes (oppressed by Incas and Aztecs respectively) and let them have it out.

[Fiera]

Hodad: ya hablaremos por ICQ, ya...

[The Hogfather]

jeje... parece que le eche sal a una viaja herida con las batallas que mencione...

[Jay Bee]

quote: Originally posted by The Hogfather on 01-25-2001 06:44 PM jeje... parece que le eche sal a una viaja herida con las batallas que mencione...

Well... not really, je, je. Lo que pasa es que ninguno tenemos ni p. idea de lo que paso en esas batallas... es que tenemos tan mala memoria, je, je



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Octavio Paz, Mexican Writer. Nobel Laureate 1990, Cervantes Prize 1982

[The Hogfather]

Si, por supuesto la memoria, comprobado cientificamente, es muy selectiva...

[Waku]

I just want to include between the most important battles, the battle of Pavia, where Francois I King of France was taken prisoner by Charles I of Spain (1525). I don't think to take prisoner the king of an enemy country is something very usual, at least not in that time.

[Jay Bee]

Hey Waku, Welcome!!!!

I've just updated the Apolyton Hispanica and now have to update it again! You're in Madrid, right?

[XarXo]

[This message has been edited by XarXo (edited January 30, 2001).]

[Fiera]

quote: Originally posted by Waku on 01-29-2001 04:53 PM I just want to include between the most important battles, the battle of Pavia, where Francois I King of France was taken prisoner by Charles I of Spain (1525).

Yes, I agree, PavÃa is surely our most brilliant victory, but, regretably, it wasn't that influential, so that's why I didn't listed it before (and because I was sure that somebody else would list it)...

It's a pity, but PavÃa wasn't the decisive victory over France that it could have been...

PD: ¡Bienvenido al foro, Waku, espero que te pases para echarnos unas charlas en español de vez en cuando, que es lo que más se agradece...