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    Copps Workers Out In The Cold?
    The Capital Times
    Friday, May 28, 2004
    By Steven Elbow The Capital Times
    More than 40 employees at local Copps food stores have been sent home until they can resolve discrepancies with their Social Security numbers.
    A spokeswoman from Roundy's Inc. in Milwaukee, which owns Copps, said the employees were given 10 days to provide the company with valid records.

    The action followed a letter from the Social Security Administration to the company late last week informing it of the problem.

    "We're obligated to have the employees answer for the discrepancies in the their files," Lynn Guyer said.

    While Guyer said the 46 employees were spread among six of the eight Madison area Copps stores, an employee at the Copps store at 620 S. Whitney Way in Madison said 27 were at his workplace. He said the employees were primarily Hispanic.

    "It's just sad because a lot of those people have families, have kids," said the employee, who wouldn't give his name.

    "Now all of a sudden they want us to work overtime," he said, referring to the impact on the other employees.

    He said the store had just posted new job openings Thursday.

    "I guess if they can't get it together, they can go elsewhere," the employee said. "I think this is just cruel. They're some of the best workers we've got."

    Larry Alt, director of the Madison Social Security office, said problems with Social Security numbers are typically weeded out in the hiring process, so it's not unusual for large employers to have a group of people emerge from a backlog.

    He said a lot of discrepancies stem from small problems that can easily be resolved, like the misspelling of a last name or a wrong digit on a form.

    He said the agency did not target the Copps employees because they were Hispanic.

    "It's against the law for an employer, and for us, to just single out a specific group of people," he said.
    II. 193 And fight them until there is no more tumult and oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression.

  • #2
    Para los que no leen inglich o les mucha hueva:

    Una tienda "suspendió" a 40 empleados sin paga, TODOS ELLOS LATINOS, mayoritariamente mexicanos, porque la administración del Seguro Social dijo que había discrepancias con sus números.

    Es decir, la agencia del seguro social quería asegurarse que los pagos estaban contando apropiadamente, y mandaron una carta a la empresa. La empresa decidió que "algo andaba mal" (pues claro, son mexicanos) y los sacó de la tienda escoltados por policías.

    Curiosamente, abrieron las nuevas posiciones aunque los empleados teoricamente estaban suspendidos.

    Es decir, hicieron limpieza étnica de sus tiendas.

    II. 193 And fight them until there is no more tumult and oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression.

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    • #3
      Bueno, y para que no digan que estoy totalmente off topic, y que solo contra los gringos.



      BEIJING (AFP) - China has banned a Swedish-made computer game accused of "distorting history and damaging China's sovereignty," by showing Manchuria, Tibet and Xinjiang as independent nations, state press said.



      The computer game, "Hearts of Iron", made by the Stockholm-based games developer Paradox Entertainment, also showed Taiwan as a part of Japan, Xinhua news agency said, citing a censorship committee under the Ministry of Culture.


      "All these severely distort historical facts and violate China's gaming and Internet service regulations," the ministry said. "The game should be immediately prohibited."


      All websites are banned from releasing the game and copies of the game on CD-ROM will be confiscated. Sellers will be punished, it said.


      Internet bars that provide downloads of the game or fail to stop surfers who download, install or play the game, will be fined or even ordered to stop business, it said.


      Earlier this year gaming regulators ordered all copies of a Norwegian-made computer game to be pulled off store shelves after alleging it "smeared" China's national image.


      "Project IGI2: Covert Strike" was accused of blackening Beijing and the Chinese army's image by featuring a freelance mercenary stealing intelligence and conducting sabotage in China.


      The mercenary fights in the game are across three linked campaigns in the former Soviet Union, Libya and China.


      With the popularity of the Internet, computer games have become a booming industry in China.


      In 2002, computer games pulled in earnings of 910 million yuan (110 million dollars), according to a report by state-run television station CCTV's website.


      Analysts predict growth in the industry will be enormous with rising demand and the improvement of the broadband network and domestic game developers.


      China's previous attempts to control burgeoning Internet use has been targeted at politically sensitive messages or essays in online discussions forums, websites and emails.



      ¿A qué le temen los chinos?
      II. 193 And fight them until there is no more tumult and oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression.

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      • #4
        ¿Cómo? ¿Prohíben el HoI porque revela que al principio de la 2ª G.M el territorio de China es más pequeño de lo que es ahora?
        "Son españoles... los que no pueden ser otra cosa" (Cánovas del Castillo)
        "España es un problema, Europa su solución" (Ortega y Gasset)
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        "Déjate llevar por la complejidad y cabalga sobre ella" - Niessuh, sabio cívico

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        • #5
          eran trabajadores legales o ilegales? mi critica depende de ese pequeño factor.
          A true ally stabs you in the front.

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          • #6
            Lo que tienen que hacer en todo pais medianamente civilizado es meter palos de una p*** vez a todos los empresarios que emplean (mejor dicho, esclavizan) ilegalmente a empleados y dejarse ya de gilipolleces y dobles raseros, carajo.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Master Zen
              eran trabajadores legales o ilegales? mi critica depende de ese pequeño factor.
              Estoy de acuerdo. Parece que existen dudas acerca de la legitimidad de los papeles, y no tiene nada que ver con el mero hecho de "tener cara de Mexicano". Ahora, podemos discutir sobre la justificación de las leyes de inmigración y todo, pero parece tener este fondo legal. Supongo que la empresa sería multada si las autoridades descubrerían que emplean "aliens".
              "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
              "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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              • #8
                Pensandolo una segunda vez, es raro que la empresa "descubre" las dudas en los papeles de todos los 40 empleados a una vez, retirandose así de su responsabilidad...
                "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
                "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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                • #9
                  La empresa ya reviso todos los papeles, presento su forma I-9 de migracion demostrando que habian demostrado satisfactoriamente tener autorizacion para trabajar, eso se hace al contratar trabajadores.

                  Y ya que en esas andamos, disculpen la pregunta, pero ¿Qué es un trabajador ilegal?
                  II. 193 And fight them until there is no more tumult and oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Wernazuma III
                    Pensandolo una segunda vez, es raro que la empresa "descubre" las dudas en los papeles de todos los 40 empleados a una vez, retirandose así de su responsabilidad...
                    Sí, y para mas casualidad, también le había llamado la atención hace poco a sus empleados por hablar español, y había puesto anuncios solicitando empleados el día antes de "suspender" a los mexicanos.
                    II. 193 And fight them until there is no more tumult and oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by El León
                      Y ya que en esas andamos, disculpen la pregunta, pero ¿Qué es un trabajador ilegal?
                      Ya vamos a empezar...


                      Empezemos uno por uno:

                      1) Los paises tienen leyes

                      2) Los paises tienen soberania para hacer esas leyes

                      3) Esas leyes dictan el estado migratorio de las personas extranjeras.

                      4) Si no las cumples, el pais tiene todo el derecho de mandarte a la fregada.


                      Sencillito?
                      A true ally stabs you in the front.

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                      • #12
                        Un trabajador ilegal es un trabajador en negro.

                        Un inmigrante ilegal es una persona que inmigro a un pais en negro.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Master Zen
                          Ya vamos a empezar...


                          Empezemos uno por uno:
                          1) Los paises tienen leyes
                          2) Los paises tienen soberania para hacer esas leyes
                          3) Esas leyes dictan el estado migratorio de las personas extranjeras.
                          4) Si no las cumples, el pais tiene todo el derecho de mandarte a la fregada.

                          Sencillito?
                          Pues sí. Tendrán todo el derecho del mundo, pero algunas leyes son moralmente reprobables.
                          Por ejemplo "si pones el pie en la playa, ¡bienvenido! si no, ¡que te den!". -Yuhuu! ¡vamos a cazar barquitas!
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by El León
                            La empresa ya reviso todos los papeles, presento su forma I-9 de migracion demostrando que habian demostrado satisfactoriamente tener autorizacion para trabajar, eso se hace al contratar trabajadores.
                            Entonces es increíble que tratan a los mexicanos como sujetos sin derechos mientras la empresa hace lo que quiere.

                            Pero para decir la verdad, dudo que todos los trabajadores realmente tengan todos sus papeles legalmente. Creo que era la política de la empresa contratar gente con problemas legales para obtener mayor control sobre ellos, no ocupándose con "associated employer outlays" - no sé como se dice en castellano (seguros, despachos etc.)

                            Y ya que en esas andamos, disculpen la pregunta, pero ¿Qué es un trabajador ilegal?
                            Por eso dije que "ahora podemos discutir sobre las leyes", pero según las leyes que hay, son ilegales. En todo caso, creo que la frase "ningún hombre es ilegal" no está bien puesta, porque, ojalá!, ninguna ley rinde ilegal a la existencia de una persona (exluimos la pena de muerte por el momento), sino su estadía en un territorio.
                            "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
                            "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by El León


                              Y ya que en esas andamos, disculpen la pregunta, pero ¿Qué es un trabajador ilegal?
                              Yo en concreto no me he referido a trabajadores ilegales, sino a trabajadores empleados ilegalmente, esto es, sin darlos de alta como tales en las administraciones públicas y sin aportar, ni la empresa ni ellos, sus correspondientes pagos al estado.
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