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  • #76
    Well don't tell us now, make up a story for it for when the thread starts!
    Who wants DVDs? Good prices! I swear!

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    • #77
      Okay... when will the thread start?
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #78
        Oceania Confederation

        Government: Federal Republic
        Member States: Australia, Tasmania, Papua New Guinea, New Zealand
        Population: 26,000,000
        Capital: Canberra, Australia
        Major Cities: Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Darwin, Perth, Wellington, Christchurch, Hobart, Port Moresby

        Oceanian Army
        50,000 Active troops
        350,000 Active reserves
        500 Tanks
        500 Artillery Pieces
        500 Armored Personnel Carriers

        Oceanian Air Force
        168 F-18 Hornets
        (24 New Zealand)
        Oceanian Navy
        3 Missile Destroyers
        7 Frigates (4 New Zealand)
        6 Missile Frigates
        12 Patrol Boats
        4 Attack Submarines


        We all know what Sodomy is, but does anyone actually know what Gomorrahmy is? I heard that bible thumpers are nazi hillbillies from Arkansas who crossbred with Martha Stewart and are also the gay lovechildren of Andy Warhol and Godzilla...but i cant remember where...oh wait Satan told me that at my Satan Church "Brainwash Children to be Homosexuals" Convention!

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        • #79
          I say we start when we get all the claims sorted, like Bearcat and GeoDan.
          Who wants DVDs? Good prices! I swear!

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          • #80
            My screen name is Frymire 22. Some punk took Bearcat If I can't be German co-ruler with Geo than I will take France and Monaco.

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            • #81
              Bolo, try Spain, Portugal and Morocco. Not Spain, France and Portugal, it is way too large. Whoever is mod here, cut down these European Developed Nations down to 1 or 2 depending on the size with a lesser developed nation. Mao, please don't let people have 2 European Countries like Spain and France.

              Jools, your nation will fall apart in a split second.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #82
                These are some Pre-Thread Stats that will be posted later, just FYI:

                Russian Federation Stats
                Captial: Moskva (Moscow)
                Government: True Federal Republic (No Yeltsin Crap)
                Economy: GDP- $590 Billion
                Per Captia: $4,000
                Growth: -4% (Will Be Brought Under Control in 12-16 months)
                Goal of Sustained Growth: +4%

                Russian Military Forces
                Army

                Divisions

                1,200,000 Men (+ 500,000 reserves)
                40 Motorized Rifle Divisions (+ 7 training Div)
                17 Tank Divisions (+ 4 training Div)
                5 Airborne Divisions (+ 1 training Div)
                7 Artillery Divisions (+ 1 training Div)
                8 Machine-Gun Artillery Division
                These total do not include mobilization divisions.

                Equipment totals

                MBTs: Over 20,000
                Light tanks: under 300
                Recce AFVs: 6000 BRDMs
                AFVs: 10,000 BMP-1s, 9000 BMP-2, 500 BMP-3, 3500 BMDs
                APCs: 20,000 BTR 60/70/80, 2300 MTLB
                Artillery: 1900 Guns (M-46, 2A36, 2S5, 2S19, 2S7)
                1000-1500 D-20
                Howitzers 11400
                MRLs 3800

                Current Deployment

                Eastern Europe

                I Corps
                3rd Motorized Rifle
                2nd Tank Division
                4th Machine-Gun Artillery
                5th Machine-Gun Artillery
                Stationed near Smolensk

                II Corps
                1st Motorized Rifle
                2nd Motorized Rifle
                4th Motorized Rifle
                1st Tank Division
                1st Airborne
                1st Artillary
                2nd Machine-Gun Artillery
                Stationed near the Russo-Ukrainian Border

                III Corps
                5th Motorized Rifle
                6th Motorized Rifle
                7th Motorized Rifle
                8th Motorized Rifle
                3rd Tank Division
                4th Tank Division
                2nd Airborne
                1st Machine-Gun Artillery
                Stationed near Smolensk

                IV Corps
                9th Motorized Rifle
                10th Motorized Rifle
                12th Motorized Rifle
                5th Tank Division
                6th Tank Division
                3rd Airborne
                Stationed near Bryansk

                V Corps
                13th Motorized Rifle
                14th Motorized Rifle
                15th Motorized Rifle
                16th Motorized Rifle
                7th Tank Division
                8th Tank Division
                3rd Machine-Gun Artillery
                Tationed near Voronezh

                VI Corps
                17th Motorized Rifle
                18th Motorized Rifle
                19th Motorized Rifle
                16th Tank Division
                17th Tank Division
                Stationed near Rostov

                VII Corps
                20th Motorized Rifle
                32nd Motorized Rifle
                14th Tank Division
                6th Artillary
                Stationed near Astrakhan

                VIII Corps
                21th Motorized Rifle
                22nd Motorized Rifle
                23rd Motorized Rifle
                9th Tank Division
                4th Airborne
                7th Artillary
                Stationed near St. Petersburg

                IX Corps
                25th Motorized Rifle
                26th Motorized Rifle
                27th Motorized Rifle
                28th Motorized Rifle
                10th Tank Division
                11th Tank Division
                5th Airborne
                2nd Artillary
                3rd Machine-Gun Artillery
                Stationed near Moscow

                X Corps
                24th Motorized Rifle
                39th Motorized Rifle
                15th Tank Division
                6th Machine-Gun Artillery
                Stationed near Smolensk

                XI Corps
                30th Motorized Rifle
                31st Motorized Rifle
                13th Tank Division
                14th Tank Division
                3rd Artillary
                Stationed near Smolensk

                XII Corps
                33rd Motorized Rifle
                34th Motorized Rifle
                12th Tank Division
                4th Artillary
                7th Machine-Gun Artillery
                Stationed near St. Peterburg

                XIII Corps
                35th Motorized Rifle
                36th Motorized Rifle
                37th Motorized Rifle
                12th Tank Division
                13th Tank Division
                5th Artillary
                Stationed near Smolensk

                Far East

                XIV Corps
                38th Motorized Rifle
                40th Motorized Rifle
                8th Machine-Gun Artillery
                Sationed near Vladivostok

                XV Corps - Naval Guard
                29th Motorized Rifle
                11th Motorized Rifle
                Stationed near Severmorsk and Sevestapol

                Navy



                Fleets



                NOR: Northern Fleet, headquarters at Severomorsk.


                Attack Submarines
                Del'fin K-263 1985 NOR
                Kashalot K-322 1986 NOR
                Kit K-391 1987 NOR
                Narval K-331 1988 NOR
                Bars K-480 1989 NOR
                Pantera K-317 1990 NOR
                Morzh K-419 1992 NOR
                Krab K-276 1987 NOR Ara Guba

                Ballistic Missile Submarines
                TK-13 1985 NOR Nerpich'ya
                TK-17 1987 NOR Nerpich'ya
                TK-20 1989 NOR Nerpich'ya
                K-84 1986 NOR Olen'ya
                K-64 1988 NOR Olen'ya
                K-114 1989 NOR Olen'ya
                K-117 1990 NOR Olen'ya
                K-18 1991 NOR Olen'ya
                K-407 1992 NOR Olen'ya
                K-424 1977 NOR
                K-449 1977 NOR
                K-455 1978 NOR
                K-490 1978 NOR
                K-487 1978 NOR
                K-44 1979 NOR
                K-496 1979 NOR
                K-506 1979 NOR
                K-211 1980 NOR
                K-223 1980 NOR
                K-180 1980 NOR
                K-129 1981 NOR
                K-130 1982 NOR
                K-131 1982 NOR

                Guided Missile Submarines
                Krasnodar K-148 1986 NOR
                Chel'yabinsk K-173 1989 NOR
                Smolensk K-410 1990 NOR
                Kursk K-141 1995 NOR
                Orel K-266 1992 NOR
                Tambov K-456 1991 NOR


                Air Forces



                Strategic Aviation



                Strategic Bombers

                1st-2nd Bomber - 12 Tu-95 M/K
                3rd-4th Bomber - 14 Tu-95 MS6
                ....5th Bomber - 13 Tu-95 MS16
                6th-7th Bomber - 12 Tu-95 MS16
                8th-9th Bomber - 6 Tu-160

                103 strategic bombers
                24 Tu-95 M/K "Bear-B/G"
                28 Tu-95 MS6 "Bear H"
                37 Tu-95 MS16 "Bear H"
                12 Tu-160 "Blackjack"

                Frontal Aviation



                Bombers

                10th-11th Bomber - 15 Tu-16
                12th-15th Bomber - 13 Tu-22
                16th-26th Bomber - 10 Tu-22M

                182 tactical bombers
                30 Tu-16 "Badger"
                52 Tu-22 "Blinder"
                100 Tu-22M "Backfire"

                Fighters

                1st-10th Fighter - 20 MiG-23
                11th-13th Fighter - 7 MiG-25
                14th-35th Fighter - 15 MiG-29
                36th-40th Fighter - 5 MiG-31
                41st-51st Fighter - 15 Su-27

                941 fighters
                400 MiG-23 "Flogger"
                21 MiG-25 "Foxbat"
                345 MiG-29 "Fulcrum"
                25 MiG-31 "Foxhound"
                150 Su-27 "Flanker"

                Ground-Attack

                1st-11th Ground-Attack - 23 MiG-27
                12th-24th Ground-Attack - 20 Su-17/22
                25th-26th Ground-Attack - 31 Su-24
                27th-36th Ground-Attack - 30 Su-24
                37th-44th Ground-Attack - 24 Su-25

                1072 attack aircraft
                253 MiG-27 "Flogger"
                260 Su-17/22 "Fitter"
                367 Su-24 "Fencer"
                192 Su-25 "Frogfoot"

                Reconnaissance

                761 reconnaissance and ECM aircraft
                70 Tu-16 "Badger"
                30 Tu-22 "Blinder"
                80 MiG-25 "Foxbat"
                80 Su-24 "Fencer"
                60 Su-17 "Fitter"
                40 Jak-28 "Brewer"
                20 Il-22 "Coot"
                125 An-12 "Cup"
                250 An-26 "Curl"
                6 Tu-134 "Crusty"
                40 flight refueling tankers
                20 Tu-16 "Badger"
                20 Il-78 "Midas"

                Transport Aviation

                1457 transport aircraft
                300 An-2 "Colt"
                350 An-12 "Cup"
                40 An-22 "**** "
                100 An-24 "Coke"
                50 An-32 "Cline"
                20 An-72 "Coaler"
                26 An-124 "Condor"
                1 An-225 "Cossack"
                375 Il-76 "Candid"
                20 Tu-134/154 "Careless"
                25 Jak-40 "Codling"
                150 L-410VP "Turbojet"

                Air Defense Force



                Fighters and AWACS

                1st-12th Air Defense - 20 MiG-23
                13th-26th Air Defense - 10 MiG-25
                27th-37th Air Defense - 20 Su-27
                38th-58th Air Defense - 15 MiG-31
                .....59th Air Defense - 12 Su-35
                .....60th Air Defense - 16 AWACS
                .....61st Air Defense - 16 A-50

                882 Fighters
                240 MiG-23 "Flogger"
                130 MiG-25 "Foxbat"
                200 Su-27 "Flanker"
                300 MiG-31 "Foxhound"
                12 Su-35 "Flanker"
                16 AWACS aircraft
                16 A-50 "Mainstay"

                Navy Aircraft



                Bombers

                1st-3rd Naval Bomber - 22 Tu-16
                4th-5th Naval Bomber - 20 Tu-22
                6th-17th Naval Bomber - 15 Tu-22M

                271 bombers
                66 Tu-16 "Badger"
                40 Tu-22 "Blinder"
                165 Tu-22M "Backfire"

                Fighters

                1st-5th Naval Defense - 22 MiG-29M
                6th-7th Naval Defense - 26 Su-33
                8th-9th Naval Defense - 25 Su-27

                212 fighters
                110 MiG-29 "Fulcrum"
                52 Su-33 "Flanker"
                50 Su-27 "Flanker"

                Attack

                215 attack aircraft
                35 Su-17 "Fitter"
                110 Su-24 "Fencer"
                70 Su-25 "Frogfoot"
                6 Tu-16 "Badger" flight refueling tankers

                98 reconnaissance and ECM aircraft
                24 Tu-16 "Badger"
                24 Tu-95 "Bear"
                20 Tu-22 "Blinder"
                20 Su-24 "Fencer"
                3 Il-20 "Coot"
                7 An-12 "Cub"

                388 anti-submarine aircraft and helicopters
                58 Tu-142 "Bear-F"
                36 Il-38 "May"
                55 Be-12 "Mail"
                88 Ka-25 "Hormone-A"
                88 Ka-27 "Helix-A"
                63 Mi-14 "Haze-A"

                155 transport aircraft
                25 Ka-25 "Hormone"
                25 Ka-29 "Helix"
                10 Mi-6 "Hook"
                70 Mi-8 "Hip"
                25 Mi-14 "Haze"

                A more complete list on Naval Craft are coming when war starts, Sami you gave me a very incomplete list of Navalry Weapons.


                [This message has been edited by Giancarlo (edited June 30, 2000).]
                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                • #83
                  Alright, looks like we're sorted to start!

                  Bearcat will have France & Monaco and GeoDan will have Germany, Low Countries, and Austria.

                  GC, you underline like you do at SidGames IIRC.

                  like this
                  Who wants DVDs? Good prices! I swear!

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                  • #84
                    Am I going to be events mod?
                    But I kick that ball, and I pray it goes straight,
                    If it does, then Coach says, "Good job number eight."
                    He doesn't even no my name is Andre Kristacovitchlalinski, Jr.
                    But that's the life I live...Lonesome Kicker

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                    • #85
                      Moderators

                      Mao-Moderator General
                      Midshipman-Events Moderator

                      Happy?

                      Also, what about NBC weapons? I think we should start by tomorrow, so if no one has any objections...
                      Who wants DVDs? Good prices! I swear!

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                      • #86
                        I don't like the idea of banning NBC weapons completely, but I am not sure how we could limit them.
                        But I kick that ball, and I pray it goes straight,
                        If it does, then Coach says, "Good job number eight."
                        He doesn't even no my name is Andre Kristacovitchlalinski, Jr.
                        But that's the life I live...Lonesome Kicker

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                        • #87
                          I don't want to ban them either, since the threat of nuclear apocalypse is real in this world and threads like this are supposed to paralell to real world to an extent (for fun of course) and we have a mod, so if there is a nuclear winter, we can change the clock back We can also delete nuclear attack posts if we have a moderator here *hint hint* *wink wink* *nudge nudge* *crash!* ouch!
                          Who wants DVDs? Good prices! I swear!

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                          • #88
                            I was thinking more about chemical attacks in warfare. That could make some battles interesting.
                            But I kick that ball, and I pray it goes straight,
                            If it does, then Coach says, "Good job number eight."
                            He doesn't even no my name is Andre Kristacovitchlalinski, Jr.
                            But that's the life I live...Lonesome Kicker

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                            • #89
                              I've talked things over with Mao and I've decided to be the Suriname Imperium which consists of Suriname and all independent Caribbean states minus Cuba

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                              • #90
                                I talked to Bearcat: He wants France, Andorra, Monaco and Belgium. I will have Germany, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, and Austria. Ok?
                                -GeoDan

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