Challenge of Fate - join in the construction

[jim panse]

Ok, this scenario will be a joint project of FiGu and myself. It´s about an alternative WW2 in a timeline FuGu and I invented yestereve

Here we´ll post our so far reached results, demands and we also discuss our scenario.

[jim panse]

The Timeline

Our alternative timeline:

In the beginning of 1939 the Soviet Union decided to aid the Republican Spain with vast military equipment. This turned the tide on the Spanish peninsula and by July 1939 the Nationalists only held Morocco.
France is threatened by a communist Spain in the South and the United kingdom fears that Gibraltar would fall soon to the advancing red troops ....

July 1939: More Soviet military bases are built in Spain. In the meantime the tensions between Poland and Germany are rising.
August 1939: Germany invades Poland (without signing the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. Also the British guarantee for Poland isn´t existing). The Allies - France and the United Kingdom - ask Germany to withdraw from Poland immediately. Fearing Germany standing at the Soviet borders Stalin orders the Red Army to occupy Poland from the East.
September 1939: Hitler decides to withdraw from Poland but the Red Army stops at last at the former German-Polish border.
The Allies sit aside and are watching the growing Soviet threat with growing worries. Germany decides to rearm polish POWs to help them to liberate Poland (and defend Germany).
October 1939: Stalin decides to attack Finnland first and postpones the assault on Europe to spring 1940.
November 1940: Concerned by the invasion Finnland by the USSR Germany decides two things: To ask the Allies to help Germany in case of war and to send support troops to Finnland.
Winter 1939/40: The Finnish-Soviet Winter War ends with a draw because also France and Great Britain sending in additional troops fighting the Red Army.
Also the pressure of the Soviet Union on the minor powers of the Balcan peninsula is growing with every day. Bulgaria was forced to join the "Red Front" and Romania is only - moretheless - independent because of the presence of German troops. Turkey is figting a communist coup d´état that took place in the major cities and is also fearing an Soviet attack.
Spring 1940: The Soviet Union launches a large-scaled attack on Germany in Poland. Also the Soviet forces in Bulgaria start to create havoc on the Balcan and in the western edge of Europe the communist Spain starts a war against Portugal and readies its troops at the Spanish-French border.
Germany asks France and Great Britain for aid and finally some kind of Anti-Communist Pact is signed between Germany, France and Great Britain. Turkey stands aside and watches with growing concerns the rising Red Sun. Italy stands also aside and want to stay neutral because of the not too imminent threat.

But: What will the Future bring?

That will be the point where the scenario kicks off .... Can you Challenge the Fate?

Playable civs: USSR, Germany, France, Italy, Great Britain, Turkey, Spain

[FiGu]

Ok,here are the Allied units for the scenario.

[jim panse]

And some "Axis" units ...

[jim panse]

Ok FiGu, have a look at the Infantry units in the top 3 rows.

[jim panse]

A first list of units for you, FiGu.

[The Apologist]

Re: The Timeline

Originally posted by jim panse
Our alternative timeline:

In the beginning of 1939 the Soviet Union decided to aid the Republican Spain with vast military equipment. This turned the tide on the Spanish peninsula and by July 1939 the Nationalists only held Morocco.
France is threatened by a communist Spain in the South and the United kingdom fears that Gibraltar would fall soon to the advancing red troops ....

I'm guessing that the Stalinists shoot the rest of the Popular Front, seize complete power, etc, etc?

July 1939: More Soviet military bases are built in Spain. In the meantime the tensions between Poland and Germany are rising.

What are these bases for? Soviet Russia's a land power... they don't need Spanish soil to invade Europe from!

August 1939: Germany invades Poland (without signing the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. Also the British guarantee for Poland isn´t existing). The Allies - France and the United Kingdom - ask Germany to withdraw from Poland immediately. Fearing Germany standing at the Soviet borders Stalin orders the Red Army to occupy Poland from the East.

This does not make sense. Uncle Joe would most likely have made the best of a bad lot and condemned Adolph with the rest of the scooby gang. (Apologies for mixed metaphors.)

September 1939: Hitler decides to withdraw from Poland but the Red Army stops at last at the former German-Polish border.

This doesn't make much sense either. H. wasn't in the business of backing down. Ever.

...
Germany asks France and Great Britain for aid and finally some kind of Anti-Communist Pact is signed between Germany, France and Great Britain. Turkey stands aside and watches with growing concerns the rising Red Sun. Italy stands also aside and want to stay neutral because of the not too imminent threat.

Doubt it. Benny was a strident anti-Communist, whereas the "Judeo-Capitalist" British and French are rather more likely to just throw money at the problem.

Typical.

[FiGu]

Ok here is the list with British and French units.

[FiGu]

ok, here's the engineer unit!
Made by FMK and modified by me.

[jim panse]

German Units

The He-111 needs still recolouring ...

[Henrik]

Re: Re: The Timeline

Originally posted by The Apologist
Doubt it. Benny was a strident anti-Communist, whereas the "Judeo-Capitalist" British and French are rather more likely to just throw money at the problem.

On the other hand pre ww2 museleni wasn't allways too fond of the germans either
As I recall Italy was even the only european power to voice oposition when Germany and Austria united...

[jim panse]

The Italian Blackshirt Militia

[Choke]

"Doubt it. Benny was a strident anti-Communist, whereas the "Judeo-Capitalist" British and French are rather more likely to just throw money at the problem."

Mussolini never considered Russia a real enemy. He was anti-communist, but not particularly anti-Stalinist and he would not plunge Italy into a no-gain war with Russia.

[jim panse]

The - more or less (@ choke - ) - complete units of Germany and Italy.

[the last 4 units in the 3rd row won´t be used, there are still some other units missing]

[jim panse]

FiGu, what about the tracks of the tanks .... wouldn´t it be nice to have them coloured like the German tanks?