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    There's currently a fairly ridiculous debate raging at CivFan about the relative merits of 'hi-res' graphics over Nemo-type units:

    Originally posted by academia Cool! Another high res units supporter! :D I'm proud to be a member of the anit-nemo graphics association ;) current number of members = 8 academia kobayashi Eivind IV anarchywrksbest Mordheim Cleveland Ohwell Darius SIGN UP HERE ON THIS...


    It got me thinking - Do many people actually like Nemo-type units? (other than the obvious candidates: Anzac, Jimmywax, Case, FMK and anyone else producing tank pics).

    Anyway, I've always wanted to try out this poll thingy, so here goes
    37
    Nemo units. He was a Civ God.
    67.57%
    25
    So-called Hi-res graphics - I like indistinguishable blobs of pixels
    18.92%
    7
    Original Civ tank graphic.
    5.41%
    2
    Sgut up and stop bothering me with this crap poll
    8.11%
    3
    http://sleague.apolyton.net/index.ph...ory:Civ2_Units

  • #2
    I haven't voted yet. Are we talking strictly tanks here? As far as infantry, terrain, cities, and icons I like Nemo's a hell of a lot better. But for tanks and aircraft I prefer the high res style. It looks more realistic.
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    • #3
      I think Alex Mor did most of the infantry graphics for Nemo's scenarios (?), so I guess I'm referring to tanks and aircraft.
      http://sleague.apolyton.net/index.ph...ory:Civ2_Units

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      • #4
        Well I'm still not going to vote.
        It also depends on the context. If you made a WW2 scenario and used Nemo graphics for everything but tanks and aircraft, the high res stuff might seem out of place. Maybe I'm wrong here but I just can't picture Second Front using high res.
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        • #5
          Actually, I voted Civ tank for one reason.
          You can't make the graphics look real due to the amount of pixels (and anyway, this is a game )

          So the next best thing in my book is to make it look good. Civ 2 original and Nemo, hands down, make better representations than shrunken photos as far as aesthetic taste goes.
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          • #6
            I read the civfanatics thread and must say that it's nothing else than ridiculous. What is it with personal opinions and tastes that screws people up in that way?
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            • #7
              I voted for Nemo-esque for obvious reasons, I cannot stand to play a scenario when the designer has gone back and forth between Isometric (nemo) and so-called Hi-Res (usually dark blobs with white outlines). As I have stated before I am a very visual person and can only seem to enjoy a scenario if it looks appealing. I am okay with Hi-Res if it is done right, i.e. the images are clear, don't have stray pixels everywhere, and fit in with the other graphics. I have seen some that look good and the designer obviously took some time to either make or find the correct gfx for the job.

              P.S. I don't like the generic term Nemo. There are too many good gfx designers that work in the Isometric style. I love to see Bebro's and Favoured Flight's work. They both have their own style as do several other designers.
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              • #8
                Nemo-esque all the way!
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jimmywax
                  I voted for Nemo-esque for obvious reasons, I cannot stand to play a scenario when the designer has gone back and forth between Isometric (nemo) and so-called Hi-Res (usually dark blobs with white outlines).
                  I couldn't agree more

                  As long as a scenarios graphic style is consistant I don't really care what style of graphics was used.
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                  • #10
                    Invalid Session error, yet again. Can't vote.

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                    • #11
                      Yep.

                      I much prefer the Nemo-esque style of unit graphics. The so-called "high-res" stuff just looks awful. I'm with JW; a scenario has to have visual appeal or I won't bother with it.
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                      • #12
                        Whaaaaat!? Nemo looks okay, but that's in the past. Hi-Res is the future! Look at ZWK, it looks tons better than Ref Front!
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                        • #13
                          I would like to argue that the Isometric "Nemo" style units are the high resolution or Hi-Res units.

                          The "Nemo" units are much nicer looking, they look like the actual units, and they are much easier to see which unit is which.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by mordhiem
                            Whaaaaat!? Nemo looks okay, but that's in the past. Hi-Res is the future! Look at ZWK, it looks tons better than Ref Front!
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                            • #15
                              I hate hi-res graphics for two reasons:
                              1) they look like crap
                              2) they are not isometric

                              I like Nemo graphics for two reasons:
                              1) they look okay
                              2) they are isometric

                              I would also like to credit Nemo with inspiring (or inventing) my style of city artwork.
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