Stupid scenario idea

[Allard HS]

Stefan,

If you need some screenshots, I got the movie on VCD.

I got tons and tons of beautiful pictures, for example of the impressive battle at the start (the very height of the film I think (the end tends to get rather boring and predictable)).

The only fatal flaw that does not correspond to the character of Commodus in the movie is him killing Marcus Aurelius. That is psychologically not a reasonable thing. For the rest the movie is well constructed, and I didn't even mind it was not historical. Yes, it is destined to be a classic.

[Stefan Härtel]

I loved the movie. I can hardly wait for it to come out on video here, esp. on English.
As for the screenshots, I have a trailer and a number of movie stills from the internet, so don't bother

I did some research on Commodus afterwards, and I think that this would definately fit into his character. Only thing is that Mark Aurel died of the Plague.


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[BeBMan]

I agree with you, Stefan, Gladiator is one of the best movies I saw. But has anyone noticed the paralleles (-sp) to the older movie "The fall of the Roman Empire" with Alec Guiness, James Mason, Hardy Krüger etc. ?

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[This message has been edited by BeBro (edited September 17, 2000).]

[Stefan Härtel]

quote: I agree with you, Stefan, Gladiator is one of the best movies I saw. But has anyone noticed the paralleles (-sp) to the older movie "The fall of the Roman Empire" with Alec Guiness, James Mason, Hardy Krüger etc. ?

I read something like that a while ago. I saw the other one a couple of years ago. What exactly were the parralels?

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Follow the masses!
30,000 lemmings can't be wrong!
Mighty Carthage fought three wars:
It was still mighty after the first one, still inhabitable
after the second one;
It could not be found after the third one.
-Bert Brecht

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[BeBMan]

The historical background with Marcus Aurelius, the fights in Germania at the beginning etc., in both movies is it a highly decorated roman officer that fights against Commodus, both movies have this one-to-one fight at the end.

Also in both cases M.Aurelius dies due to an assasination (but in the older movie Commodus isn´t the murderer), and in both cases M.Aurelius will not have Commodus as the next Caesar.

BTW, before Gladiator this older movie was my fauvorite about ancient Romans. I wouldn´t say that these paraleles make Gladiator a "remake" or so, it has it´s own strenghts, but I found it interesting to match the two movies.


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[Mercator]

You could let the audience be a civ allied to all the others. If there are some cities at the border of the arena, gladiators could use those to improve their health.
Perhaps Leonardo's workshop might come in handy to upgrade gladiators. I wouldn't know which side to give, it though. The Romans probably.
Perhaps the lions etc. could be barbarian. You could then set the barbarian activity to "raging hordes" or whatever, to create them. But, well, since there's probably enough room for all the civs, making them a separate civ would do just fine and would give you more control over them.

Perhaps you could use air units to represent chained animals.

And I agree with all of you, Gladiator definitely was a great movie.

[Prometeus]

If you need a terrain to perform a stone floor for your arena, send me a Private Message; i snapped it from AOE drs files with a Slp program... I'll send it to you.
PS Stefan, have you received my Celtitaly scenario? I posted it to you two days ago.

[Kull]

Prometeus: Tell us more! I would love to ransack AOE for LOTS of artwork. City walls, floors, animals, units, the list goes on and on! What exactly is an "Slp program", where does one find one, and how easy is it to use? Enquiring minds want to know!

[Prometeus]

a) The program is named SLP-Studio. Sorry, I found it on a CD-Rom...
b) It's written in english, and it's a lot easy to use; this program open the DRS encripted code, changing every SLP into a BMP image ( or image series )... What you have to do is to copy DRS files into SLP folder, then open them with SLP-Studio.
I hope you have AoE. I posted it to you.
c) The Slp compressed file is a collection of single or more bitmaps, stored in a file with a DRS extension.
Currently, there are four useful DRS files in AoE.
One is for Graphics ( units, trees, buildings...), the second depicts Terrains, the third is for Sounds, and the fourth is for Game borders. Do not open Interfac.DRS, it stores only numeric codes.
d) I'm ransacking Graphics.DRS for my Kok Turks scenario - with awesome results ( I was able to change the Civ2 MGE Forest terrain into a Boreal Forest... ).

[This message has been edited by Prometeus (edited September 21, 2000).]

[Stefan Härtel]

Age of Empires has a screenshot option built-in. You just need to press the "Ctrl" and "F12" buttons, and the game will generate a *.bmp file in the main directory. This was, of course, done for the intro maps in first place, but it is possible to convert them into *.gifs.

[Prometeus]

Stefan, This SLP-Studio allows also to replace internal images, and to extract hidden ones. Not to be mentioned you can pick up trees one by one, and not as you can do with the Aoe screenshot build-in...
[This message has been edited by Prometeus (edited September 21, 2000).]

[Kull]

Thanks Prometeus! That program is sooooo cool!!!