Cross&Crescent released

[BeBMan]

Due to the last good reports of the testers, I decided to release the scenario now.
Ok, here is the link:

http://home.debitel.net/user/bbrosing/CrossEng.zip

(Umm, I tested the download, It works fine with Go!Zilla, but if you have only the IE, perhaps is better to use the "Save target as..." option )

The sounds are available on my (German) website, or in the "For Review" area of the SLeague this month.

I´m planning no new version in the near future, but all comments or suggestions are still welcome and will be useful, if I make an update later.


[This message has been edited by BeBro (edited June 12, 2000).]

[blackclove]

I'll add the English version to the reviews page when I update. (hopefully that will happen relatively soon now that my net access is working again)

[BeBMan]

Thanks, blackclove!

[Mao]

OK, I started playing as the Brits. After about 4 turns, the Franks developed Hospitaler (sp?) Order. Is this supposed to happen?

[BeBMan]

Mhmm Mao, this sounds bad to me. It should NOT happen! Hospitaler Order? And they attack you with Hospitalers in the next turns? The first tech that they should discover is bookbinding or dukedom...

No other tester has reported such a problem and I started a new game shortly after I´ve read your post and all runs well...
Please, can you send me your savegame? It would help me a lot, if there is a problem with the techtree. ( I hope it´s not)

And blackclove, can you delay the addition of this version to the "For Review" section a bit until it´s clear that it has no serious bug?

[This message has been edited by BeBro (edited June 13, 2000).]

[Mao]

OK, I'll try to send it....now cross your fingers that it won't crash my computer...

[Mao]

It's sent! The header is (no subject) I believe, hope that's not a problem.

[BeBMan]

Mao, I received the savegame, but I can´t load it (Civ2 says something like "file has a higher version...").

Have you MGE? I´ve only FW. Some testers have reported that they can play it with MGE without any problems (which was nice to hear), but some had problems under MGE.
Therefore, I recommended this scenario only for FW, as said in the other thread.

Normally, the Franks shouldn´t been able to discover the Hospitaler Order without a special event, but this event should not appear before the English have their Hospitalers, which should be impossible after only four turns. There are several other techs needed to get the Hospitalers...

I know no other reason for this problem as the different civ versions.
Has any other player noted some strange techology effects? Even with FW?

[This message has been edited by BeBro (edited June 14, 2000).]

[Stefan Härtel]

That should be no problem. There is a bug in the game itself that randomly says that specific civs get a specific tech or make peace with other civs although that doesen't happen. (For example, In JPetroski's "Anstieg/Aufstieg", the Soviets develop some tank or so every turn although it doesen't happen). My suggestion would be either to check the French intelligence, or, if that's impossible (haven't played the latest version) switch to the French via cheat mode and check that out.

Once again, its a game bug that occurs quite often.

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[BeBMan]

Thanks Stefan, I hope this is the solution!

Mao, could you follow Stefans advice? Please, enable the cheat mode, select the Franks as human player and look into their cities. Are there Hospitalers available in the production menu?

And thanks PolarisGL, you saved my day...

[Archangel]

This scenario looks excellent! Thanks for making an English version.

[Mao]

Yeah...I opened cheat, revealed map, and the Franks have more hospitalars running around than I do! And then I switched human players to the Franks, and could still build hospitalars...maybe I'll try under FW.

[PolarisGL]

You're quite welcome.

[PolarisGL]

The problem did not come across my eyes. However, to fix it, make it so the tech is a no,no tech, so no one can research it. Then give by events to all civs, as opposed to just the French.

Excellent scenario, might I add!

[BeBMan]

Ok, I asked two other (FW) players via e-mail about techtree problems, and they answered that everything works fine.

If no other players reports an error I would say that this version runs correctly under FW. (I think everytime I say something like this a new problem appears, I hope that someone can review this scenario without any problems, otherwise I´ll accept a 0/30 rating... ))