Best WWII Scenario Award

[St Leo]

I nominate Microprose's WWII. Despite many a historical flaw (There are fields of grass instead of Baku) it is brilliantly balanced (Why the hades does everyone make scenarios superhard these days?) and fun. More nominations?:-)

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St. Leo
http://ziggurat.sidgames.com/
http://www.sidgames.com/forums/

[Mao]

I hereby nominate Red Front by Captain Nemo.

HA! Beat you all to it!

[benedetti]

I support each and every of the words written by tovarich St Leo.

That is two votes for Microprose's WWII (the only WWII scenario that did not bore me to death after the first two turns )

[Fast_Eddie]

Yeah! Put me down for Microprose too! That was a great scenario!

[Saint Marcus]

New Germany...it was better then Anstieg (in playability that is)

[JPetroski]

Well, this is a very bad thing that these awards are so soon in coming. Does anyone know the exact date? Hopefully sometime in March if Aufstieg (the first scenario designed and created by the CIV2 SCENARIO CREATION TEAM comprising of myself, Jim Winchell, Mike Daumen, Stefan Hartel, Allard Hoffelt, and Dan Meadow) is to be ready to compete openly with Red Front.

This scenario promises to be totally inovatting for a ww2 scenario with a new strategic bombing which has an actuall affect on how many of certain units you have in your aresenal and many other surprizes.

The scenario, when completed, will be absolutely huge. Possibally well over 20MB in size including sound, and all that tedious download time will be rewarded by a truely breathtaking scenario of unparralled brilliance.

Well anyway, that's my rave/self promotion for the day =)

Thanks for your time,


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John Petroski
JPski7@aol.com

[Paul Hanson]

Depends how you look at it, this does. For general flair I`d have to go with Red Front.
For military tactics and a need for careful planning, Up The Deadly Boot rises above the rest.

The problem that some WW2 scenarios suffer from is being too easy as the Russians (Red Front excluded, obviously). This applies to Microprose`s scenario and New Germany (on New Germany, I got a bit fed up after I`d liberated Amsterdam in 1943). For some reason, Ansteig never worked on my PC, so I can`t have an opinion on that.

[Captain Nemo]

Is this an objective or subjective rating?

If a criteria like the Scenario League's scoring system (Points for playability, innovation, general care and artwork) is used the MPS scenario wouldn't score very high because it only has playability going for it...So I assume either it's subjective or playability is the number 1 concern?

I will not vote because I would not want to vote for one of my own scenarios and I truly believe Red Front is way above anything else made in this group.

I would like to nominate a few more entries that should be considered:
Battle of Britain (by Dan Saccavino)
Harlan's WWII in Europe
Harlan's WWII in the Pacific
Afrika Korps
2194 Days of War (Cheeeers!)

[St Leo]

I guess I should make an awards site since you guys assumed that this was more than a discussion starter. No matter, I wanted to do that for a while anyway.:-)

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St. Leo
http://ziggurat.sidgames.com/
http://www.sidgames.com/forums/

[Black Dragon]

Another vote for Microprose.

[MagyarCrusader]

Red Front.

And I agree with JP and Stefan.

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Canada sucks
France is worse

Assassin of the Anarchist Supreme of the Disgracefull PROT!

[JPetroski]

Yes Nemo, Red Front is the best WW2 scenario out there.... For now....

I have to "de-nominate" Afrika Korps from the running as I personally believe that it is my worst scenario ever (so bad that I am going to remake it some day).

My vote is for Red Front. Personally as a WW2 scenario designer I take it as a personal insult that Microprose's lackluster (by today's standards) attempt at a WW2 scenario should get so many votes. I dont think that scenarios built that many years ago should be even allowed in HAC. I was under the impression that this was a year to year competition where only scenarios built during the year were allowed.

John Petroski

[Stefan Härtel]

THAT CRAP OF MICROPROSE?????
I understand that you don't want to be bored to death after two turns, but this Microprose scenario is an insult to everyone having anything to do with or have any interest in WW2! Give me two days and I will make you a better scenario without any altered Game files!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Follow the masses!
30,000 lemmings can't be wrong.

[Saint Marcus]

Red Front is made with ToT right?

anyway, I like WWII scenarios that feature the entire European conflict, not just one area (Russia, Brittain, Africa, etc)...and I like to play as the French

[Allard HS]

Red Front is for Fantastic Worlds.

Personally, I think quite the opposite of you, Mark, I prefer one area than the whole picture of the war, and not only because that is more original.
I like playing as French or any weaker nation, and that's why I like Red Front, cause I was shocked by how bad it looked for me at the start.