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    I won't say anything more exept that I've begun on a new project from the early 20th century. And I need to know what the people's opinion is .

    My question to you is: Who would you rather see playable; The Italians or the Ottomans?

    Cast your vote please!
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    Last edited by Eivind IV; February 18, 2004, 13:56.
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  • #2
    Stop making us curious like this..


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    • #3
      This scenario: it wouldn't happen to be Italy's invasion of Ottoman-held Libya before WW1?
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      • #4
        I wonder who picked option 3?

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        • #5
          @Curt: Yes, I do as well *cough*

          @our_manWell, as I said above I won't say anything. But it's in the era of the Russo-Japanses war, the Balcan war and even the Italy-Ottoman war
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          • #6
            Yeah, do the Balcan wars, or perhaps you could begin inthe early 19th century and then unfold the events until 1923, when Turkey became what it is today.

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            • #7
              Would be hard to script all the treaties
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              • #8
                I think probably the Ottomans: although they were well on the way to becoming the 'Sick man of Europe' they were still a more significant power than Italy at the turn of the century.

                What are the other civs BTW? I'm guessing Britain, France, Russia, Germany, USA and Japan?
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                • #9
                  I won't say anything, only that you're a good guesser, Fairline!
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                  • #10
                    Certainly the Ottomans: they controlled a much more significant slice of the world, and think of it if the empire had lasted longer? It would have been a far more important occurance to the world than anything Italy really did.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Italy or Ottoman Empire?

                      Originally posted by Kobra
                      My question to you is: Who would you rather see playable; The Italians or the Ottomans?
                      Ehm, of course I have to vote for my homeland

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                      • #12
                        Gotta go with the Sublime Porte.

                        Btw, I have a bunch of links and book info, though mainly from 1914 onwards.

                        The Ottoman Conscription System gives a good description of Ottoman army units from 1844-1913 (they overhauled it in late 1913 after the Balkan debacle).

                        Storia d' Italia has some good timelines for the Turco-Italian war, but might require some help from Justinianum

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                        • #13
                          Great links! Thanks!

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                          • #14
                            Bah. I use ottomans for footstools.

                            Seriously though, I guess I'd say the Ottomans too. Pretty big chunk of land to be representing as part of Shah Neutral Leader's Empire, or leave empty, or (god forbid) represent with barbarians. Dunno what the alternative would be though.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by fairline
                              What are the other civs BTW? I'm guessing Britain, France, Russia, Germany, USA and Japan?
                              That or Britain, France, Russia, Germany, Austria and Spain
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