a question about the relation between the terrain and a road built on it

[Cifer Almasy]

... Hi experts!

Is there any possibilty to define how much turns one settler needs to build a road on a special terrain?
Jimmy dind´t really know if it perhaps is combined with the movement cost.

Thanks in advance



Cifer

[Civfan]

I thought under the editor with terrain editor or possible using the effects editor, but to my surprise, no you can't change that.

[Paul Hanson]

I think it's tied into the terrain's movement cost.

[SlowThinker]

Yes, it is movement cost * 2 .

[Boco]

Good to see you're reading these threads, SlowThinker. Your posts in the Great Library have saved me from more than a few designing mistakes.

[Civfan]

perfect, thanks all

[SlowThinker]

I will post some hypoteses concerning roads. Please deny or confirm them.

This is a summary of all possibilities how the trade is generated on squares:

A) Basic trade from squares:
as defined in rules.txt;
+1 trade from river (works also on squares with 0 trade)

B) Trade from roads (+1 trade):
Generated on
1. three first terrain types in rules.txt (Desert, Grassland, Plains)
2. land squares that have trade>0 after point A)

C) Trade from Republic/Demo (+1 trade) and from Colossus (+1 trade):
Generated on squares that have trade>0 after point B)

D) Trade from superhighways
Generated on squares that have roads (or RR): + RoundDown (1/2 * TradeAfterPointC) trade

[SlowThinker]

Originally posted by Boco
Good to see you're reading these threads, SlowThinker. Your posts in the Great Library have saved me from more than a few designing mistakes.

I have a feeling that Civ2 community is divided into several isolated parts: SP players are in Civ2-Strategy, MP in Civ2-MP, scenario-oriented players are here. Almost no communication between them.

[Boco]

B) Trade from roads (+1 trade):
Generated on
1. three first terrain types in rules.txt (Desert, Grassland, Plains)
2. squares that have trade>0 due after point A)

From some testing in ToT, I'd conclude that ocean squares with roads do not get a +1 bonus even if they have trade>0 in @TERRAIN. So, I'd edit B.2. to "land squares that have trade>0 due after point A)."

And yes, there is a lot of fragmentation on the Civ2 forums. The Strategy forum has posted some incredible wizardry about plain vanilla Civ2. Very useful when you can extrapolate to a modified Rules.txt.

[Cifer Almasy]

Thanks @ all!
The thing with the movement cost is perfect perfect for my scen...

[Henrik]

A river on the tile adds an additional turn if you are building a road...

[SlowThinker]

It depends if you are using Settler or Engineer. But Gastrifidis Info:Settlers covers that.

[SlowThinker]

But we are speaking about a SP mode up to this point. In MP mode it is different:
Accelerated orders (in Multiplayer/Internet mode)