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  • #16
    My atlas -also a German one- says 'Valletta'.. However, I just checked my historical atlas and it says 'La Valletta'..

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    • #17
      Originally posted by yop73
      And Madrid also doesn't border the sea.
      If you need to, there is a way that cities on the coast can be restricted from buliding ships and coastal improvements. I believe that when you save the scenario you place an extra land square in order to cut the city off from the ocean. Then after the file is saved you simply hex-edit that square out of existance. You may or may not have know about this, but it does come in handy when the limited engine forces you to place a non-port city on the coast. Carl Fritz used this in his excellent Struggle for Empire scenario.
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      • #18
        'Civ city' program can also restrict a city's building options.

        Cheersm guys.
        I have now fixed Madrid.
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        • #19
          Hello everybody!

          I was reading this thread and...
          ...only to make a bit of noise... :
          Malta's capitol city was founded after the 'great siege' in 1565, in which the Hospitalier Order knigths defeated the overnumbering Turk attackers.
          The Order's Great Master was Jean Parisot DE LA VALETTE (1494-1568, and look at his age during the siege...), who founded the new fortified city called "Civitas Humilissima Valettae" ('very humile Valette city'), later LA VALLETTA.
          That's all.

          HAVE A GOOD JOB, Curt!

          I'm always ready if you or someone else need something about Italian names... (that I surely know better than Maltese... )

          by the way...
          ... someone interested to make a scenario on the Great Siege of Malta (1565) ???...
          but this is another tale...
          "Dilexi iustitiam, odivi iniquitatem, propterea morior in exilio" [PAPA GREGORIUS VII +1085] - ("He amado la justicia, he odiado la iniquidad, por eso muero en exilio") - ("I loved justice, I hated unfairness, that's why I die in exile") - (J'ai aimé la justice, j'ai détesté l'iniquité, c'est pourquoi je meurs en exil") - ("Ich liebte Gerechtigkeit und hasste Ungerechtigkeit, deshalb sterbe ich im Exil")

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          • #20
            *I think that 211, 163 would be a better location for Perth

            *You should include at least one New Zealand City. Auckland, the largest city, is at 252,172 and Wellington, the capital, is at 251,177

            *Port Moresby should be at 233,135 (and New Guniea should have a lot more hills and mountains!

            *Johannesburg should be at 148,158

            *Durban should be at 149,163

            *Capetown should be at 142,168

            *Kagoshima should be at 223,85

            *Kuala Lumpur should be at 201,177

            *Surabaya should be at 209,131 (BTW, Batavia [204,130] was the main city in the Dutch East Indies)

            *Jerusalem should be at 155,85

            *Tripoli should be at 138, 84

            *Tobruk should be at 146,85

            *Alexandria should be at 149,87

            (BTW, Libya seems to 'bulge' too much)

            *Mecca should be at 159,97

            *Riyadh was a tiny town and isn't worth including. If you must include it, it should be neutral.

            *Likewise, Kuwait wasn't anything special

            *Khartoum should be at 152,104

            *Be careful with assigning Addis Ababa's starting ownership: from memory, the British captured it in late 1940. Just becuase Nemo got it wrong doesn't mean that you have to

            *Guam and Saipan should be 3 spaces west of where they are now

            *Davao should be at 218,114

            *Northern Luzon should be mountaineous

            *Truk was under Japanese control from 1919 onwards
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Gagliaudo
              by the way...
              ... someone interested to make a scenario on the Great Siege of Malta (1565) ???...
              but this is another tale...
              That would be interesting for sure!!
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              • #22
                Just something I quickly noticed: 'Praha' is the Czech spelling for Prague IIRC.
                Georgi Nikolai Anzyakov, Commander Grand Northern Front, Red Front Democracy Game

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                • #23
                  Hi Curt,
                  here is my suggestion. I raised several cities in Europa and replaced them. I focused on Central Europe (Germany and France) as well as on the Balcan (right word?). I also edited Turkey (cause you founded about three our four cities which had less the 100.000 citizens in 1938). I founded some new. The Balcan and Turkey were naturally low-populated in those times - so do not mind having low cities there!
                  The map is not bad - but Italy and the Balcan aren´t well designed I guess. Italy is too small (theres not even space for Neaples, what should make me worry), also to small: The Balcan!
                  Its a pity but theres no space for Nürnberg. But Leipzig was more important in those times (economicly and for the army). It just had a cultural meaning for the Nazis. But perhaps you could create a wunder like the "German rallys" (dont really know about this but heard that several times) in Nürnberg and give it to München (Munich)!
                  The same thing about St. Nazazaire: The place where it stands should be represented with Nantes which is a lot larger than this village. Just use a wonder or stuff (the U-Boot harbour of St. Nazazaire) and place it in Nantes! (My opinion)

                  Ok ill just give you the save: I just looked at the regions I know about (cant really help you with Russia or else but there are others who told you some suggestions about it). Didnt focus at city sizes or names (like Praha - I just told it Prag) but the German citynames should be exact.

                  Ok, here is it:
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                  • #24
                    @Gagliaudo;
                    Excellent info, thanks.

                    @Case;
                    I will look through these and change what is needed.

                    @Cifer;
                    Cheers for the suggestions, I am checking it out very soon.

                    Latest update about the map.
                    I am going to use a mixture of concepts suggested by your good selves.

                    Certain cities have 'WW2 appeal'...I must keep cities like Warsaw to maintain the feel of the affair.

                    I will use German names for German cities, as they do add flavour,
                    but I will keep the English names for Prague, Warsaw and Vienna, etc.
                    This is for the simple reason: UK, Russia or America would not call the city by it's German name.

                    I will agree that the map is sparse in space at some areas.
                    But it is good to show a fully global-scale conflict, and some strategic areas are represented by a single major city.

                    CIV2 is limited, basically. I can only squeeze in so much.

                    I would love to have unlimited map space, unit slots and events.
                    But this is not so...
                    There is only so much that can be represented...In this game anyway.

                    But I will try to find a good mix between fun and reality...
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                    • #25
                      but I will keep the English names for [...] Vienna
                      Why? Vienna (and the rest of Austria too, of course) was a part of the German Reich from 1938 on. So this scenario is going to kick off in 1940 I suggest to call Vienna by its german name, Wien.

                      P.S. I know I´m a bit geeky on that, forgive me

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                      • #26
                        @Jim...

                        Hmmm, I can see the the wisdom of what you say.
                        But!
                        Would a Red Army trooper use the German name?
                        I will certainly keep the German nation names German.
                        But 'conquest' cities are bound to change hands some times.

                        I am sure there was a German name for Stalingrad, London or Washington.
                        But it would look weird to use them.

                        Firstly though, I must request some help!
                        Would anyone be kind enough to have a crack at re-shaping the N. African coastline on this map?

                        I never made the map, but I am having no luck on making it look OK.

                        Perhaps a different eye on it would help.

                        Any volunteers?

                        It is really the area around where Tripoli would be that is bugging me.

                        I have still to add some of Cifer/Case's additions, but I want to get this issue fixed first...
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Case
                          *Be careful with assigning Addis Ababa's starting ownership: from memory, the British captured it in late 1940. Just becuase Nemo got it wrong doesn't mean that you have to
                          But...But!

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                          • #28
                            one thing for names: Praha is Czech, Warszawa is Polish, Moskva is Russia. None of those are German. Maybe settle on the 'ethnic' name of the city?
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                            • #29
                              First I want to fix North Africa!
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                              • #30
                                Oh, as far as city sizes go Budapest has a larger population than Vienna.
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