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  • #16
    What about Hong Kong and Formosa? I recall reading that Roosevelt wrote to Stalin about how he hated the British imperialism in Hong Kong during the Yalta conference.

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    • #17
      You do realise that this is set in an alternate timeline?

      The war ended more or less in Jun 1944.
      As such, certain events did not happen.

      Soviet Russia was not a friend of the Allies after this point.

      There were no summits or conferences...
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      • #18
        Curt, Australia really shouldn't be neutral: We should be included as part of the US or Europeans. (I'd go with the US). There was no way that Australia would stay out of WW3.

        On other Australian related stuff, the population of Canberra is way too big - Canberra didn't have more then 50,000 people in 1949 (Sydney and Melbourne each had over a million residents). Also, Papua New Guniea was under Australian rule from the end of WW2 and not British rule as you've depicted it as.
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        • #19
          Well, in the scenario's situation, the neutrals (hence Australians too) will have their hands full.

          This may change in some future update, but as it is, USA and NATO are quite powerful enough.

          Handing them the south pacific would tip the balance.
          Neutral cities are there for the taking.

          You want Australia? Get your tanks out!

          I am working on a new project now.
          So any city name changes or other things,
          feel free to customise the scn file to your own needs.
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          • #20
            @Case,
            To be truthful, I would love to make Australia a seperate civ!

            If there was a way to activate that extra civ (arabs,incas) I would make Oz playable!
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            • #21
              Is this scenario PBEMable?

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              • #22
                And is it possible to negotiate with the AI? It is somewhat frustrating to not be able to tell other civs to remove their troops from my territory.

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                • #23
                  Sure!
                  This Scenario is PBEMable by the simple operation of removiing the NEGOTIATION mask from the events.

                  This bit:

                  @IF
                  NEGOTIATION
                  talker=anybody
                  talkertype=HumanOrComputer
                  listener=anybody
                  listenertype=HumanOrComputer
                  @THEN

                  In SP it is not wise to have this removed as civs will break alliances, go to war and demand techs they should not have!

                  Imagine the USA demanding your MIG15 tech!
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                  • #24
                    Errr.... Curt, why is my name on the credits list?

                    I didn't actually help with anything.I didn't even download the playtest version as University lessons extracted a heavy toll on my free time.

                    I know you meant well, but i find it rather unfair for the people that actually helped.
                    "Military training has three purposes: 1)To save ourselves from becoming subjects to others, 2)to win for our own city a possition of leadership, exercised for the benefit of others and 3)to exercise the rule of a master over those who deserve to be treated as slaves."-Aristotle, The Politics, Book VII

                    All those who want to die, follow me!
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                    • #25
                      Questions about the Backstory....

                      You know, this scenario doesn't address Japan at all. What happened? Did the Russians invade? Stalin let Chiang beat Mao in China? Was the Manhattan project put on hold?
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                      • #26
                        @Pericles:
                        I am in the manner of thanking the SL people in general.

                        Every little helps!
                        Your no-nonsense advice for my last scenario was a catalyst for my approach to this one.
                        I still credit you for that...

                        Now enough modesty!
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                        • #27
                          Re: Questions about the Backstory....

                          Originally posted by Michael Daumen
                          You know, this scenario doesn't address Japan at all. What happened? Did the Russians invade? Stalin let Chiang beat Mao in China? Was the Manhattan project put on hold?
                          The action really centres in Europe.

                          The 1944 capitulation of Germany led to a copycat action by Japan.
                          The bomb never reached it's zenith, as it was never needed.
                          Japan is now basically is under US rule, but has been given back some self-government.
                          Answerable to US HQ in Tokyo, of course.

                          In this timeline, Mao became a non entity after Japan collapsed and the USA helped China solidify and isolate the communists.
                          As China, you have to finally destroy the chinese communists at the onset of the scenario.

                          I didn't want to give the USA too much of a massive foothold in the east...

                          In game terms, the USA must help beat off the WARPAC sponsored forces in asia...
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                          • #28
                            Someone should start a PBEM of this Scenario! its just great!
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                            • #29
                              Thanks, man!

                              It would be a simple matter of changing the events.
                              Only 4 of the empires are really fun to play.

                              Independents and neutrals exist to get a kicking...
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                              • #30
                                Hmmm...I know you're not working on this anymore, but I'm playing as the Chinese, and when I get Military Upgrade II I can produce MiG-15s, but no longer Sherman tanks. Is this supposed to happen? Is there a way I can fix this?
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