Soviet Steel - Join In The Construction!

[tanelorn]

F4s entered service in the early 1960's like the mig 21's. The F86 which entered servive during the Corean 1950-53 like the mig15 (the f86 had the tail postioned on the root of the fin, not on it, the mig did). The interim mid to late 50's fighters were the transonic F100 for NATO and Mig 19 (Chinese J6) for WARPAC. During the 1960's US allies got the F104 starfighter ("flying coffin", it is a dangerous plane to fly for those who use it), instead of the phantom. The F104 was license built in Canada, Japan, Italy and Germany in great numbers. Planes like the F101, F102, F105 and F106 saw comparatively limited service. France and Britain built their own planes.

I really think that North Corea should be included in the WARPAC, the Soviet army left just before the outbreak of the war there. They actually participated in the war as military advisors and volunteer pilots.

In the real world, SS troops joined the French foreign legion en masse, to avoid persecution. They fought in Algeria, Indochina etc. also in Belgian Congo.

M109's were used post WW2 by the Spanish (who also built He 111's and airboats) and the Czechs, the French built some Fw190's and Ta's as well as some German bombers. Mig 5 and Mig 9 had german engines I think.

[tanelorn]

Originally posted by EZRhino
The soviet Mig-15 was based by and large on a late war geman design that never made it into production.

That would have to be the Mig 9, that actually had German engines. The Mig 15 Fagot was built around a copy of the British Rolls Royce Nene engine, which was legally oferred to the USSR by the sympathetic labour government.

[EZRhino]

That is true, but I was speaking not of the engines, but of the airframes.

[Iron Chancellor]

Does anyone know what a flag of the Weimar republic looks like, because I cannot imagine a Rommel-led Germany keeping the Swastika after the death of Hitler and the destruction of the SS (Rommel never joined the Nazi party, seeing his duty more towards the German people than towards the Nazi Government)

By the way, I like the swastika-Nato emblem, but see above

[Iron Chancellor]

I would like to aid the project in any way possible, though I am graphically impaired, so I volunteer to work on some of the text files, if you want

[JCG]

The Weimar flags:

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/de1921.html

Another good-looking scenario, it'd be interesting to see if curt could use multiple events files this time though...but that's just a very minor issue.

[JamesJKirk]

The Weimar flag was the same as the current one.

If the war in Europe ended in 1944, the chances are that the US would have pushed ahead with an invasion of Japan since the bomb wasn't ready yet. Or perhaps that they would have surrended sometime after Germany did, but I don't know how likely that would be that early in time. So perhaps this war will see the first use of atomic weapons

[Iron Chancellor]

That actually sounds better, as the Soviets didn't get the bomb until 49, I think. It would be interesting, especially in PBEM, to see a US with a monopoly on the Atomic Bomb. If the use of an Atomic weapon was post-poned, one can easily see the theft of it also forestalled.

[Michael Daumen]

Will this scenario have a "normal" tech tree?

[EZRhino]

I dig the avatar Kirk. But didnt that total awareness deal fall through the floor?

[jim panse]

@Curt: I´m currently compiling/editing a bunch of shields and units. If you like to see ´em just tell me ....

[curtsibling]

Originally posted by Iron Chancellor
Who are the owners of these units (which by the way look great)?


PS How far along is the project?

Scots regiment, NATO Infantry, Canadian Infantry.

(The red and white Canadian flag did not come into wide use until 1955, I have been told)

[curtsibling]

@Jim,

I love to see your shields, feel free to post them!

[curtsibling]

Originally posted by Iron Chancellor
I would like to aid the project in any way possible, though I am graphically impaired, so I volunteer to work on some of the text files, if you want

@Iron, I would be honoured to have you aboard!

[curtsibling]

The scenario is in the early stages, but luckily, I have a tech-tree template and other files from when I was making D2MGE.

The main challenge will be the map...I might make a new one, or just use a veryheavily-edited one from Dictator...

What do you all think?

Many things will change, from graphics and events...as this is early days for the project.

The emphasis of the tech tree will be a race to build aircraft that did not see the light of day in our world to the late 1960s...

These are the superplanes of the scenario, only possible due the progress achieved in war.

Also civs must rush to achieve the atomic ballistic missile science.
The bomb never was dropped on Japan, and it was occupied after the Emperor ordered an end to the resistance, in the aftermath Germany's capitulation.

It now is a toy that both superpowers are working on...
The civ that reaches the ballistic atomic missile will be able to threaten the world...

But conventional warfare rules the early battles...

The Mig is rare at the outset of the scenario. But will appear in greater numbers...
Their appearance in 1950 are due to many scientists from Germany escaping to Russia with research,
in the immediate post-surrender chaos in Germany...

This will be a major conflict in Europe, with a good challenge, no matter who you play...

State of map-ownership:
The USSR owns everything Eastern, up to Poland...
The NATO owns Western Europe and has objective cities, the crux of the scenario...
The USA has projected bases and fleets all over...It has a mission to crush unruly states also...
A war is also brewing around the new state, Israel...
China watches and remains mysterious...