GS's Secret Project

[Giant Squid]

It's not completely historical, but it's not too radical of a departure from history either. Any guesses?

[Civfan]

I see Carthage, China, and Alexanders empire... Is it World war 3?

[Giant Squid]

Hmmm...your Civ identifications are correct...WWIII would be rather unlikely to occur before the other two, though, right?

I'm going to bed now. When someone gets it, I'll post a screenshot or two.

[Civfan]

Rise of ALexander the great....

[Civfan]

I mean after his death...succession wars or something like that

[Cal]

Well, it includes the far east, but not Russia or much of Europe... I don't know, I'm stumped. I don't know a lot of history past the 20th century.

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[Stefan Härtel]

I see the Celts, the Carthaginians, the Chou Empire, a Japanese civilization (Yayoi poppoed up only around 200 BC)... a capital in Mesopotamia, and an empire that stretches from Hellas to India seems like Alexander's, but remember, folks, that Alex didn't get further than the Indus valley (today's Pakistan)!
The choice of cities is rather odd: (From west to east)
Pella, Byzantion, Athinai, Sparta, Halikarnassos, Xanthos (or Phasis/Eurymedon), Tarsos, Arados (or is it Issos?), Tyros, Alexandreia Aigyptos (or is it Naukratis?), Memphis, Thebes, Elephantine/Syene (?), Hagmatana (or is it Arbela/Gaugamela?), Babylon, Alexandreia (Basra), Susa, Persepolis, Pura, Bactra/Samarqand/anything else Central Asian, Pattala (?), Taxila, Sangala, Aornos (?), Pattaliputra, Udjein/Sanchi, Kattura, Sopatma (?), Madura (?)... It is definately antiquity, the city placement would be too strange for anything else. But I wonder if these civilizations are really to be historical empires than rather just ethnical or geographical blocks. That seems to be with the Celts and the white guys...

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[Stefan Härtel]

Is it something like "What-if-Alexander-hadn't-died-in-323 BC and went on to conquer-India" thingy or "What-if-Alexanders-soldiers-wouldn't-have-rebelled-in-325-BC-"?


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[Wangshibo]

The capital looks to me to be at Mecca....could it be that it is about the islamic empire? I know the Chinese still hold them responsible for messing up their empire around 7-800 AD. So my guess is Western Europe (green) Vandals (Orange) Muslims (white) Han Chinese (blue) and Japanese (yellow).

[C0ckney]

The capital looks like babylon to me.

also Alexander (if he had lived past 323) would not have conqured India, when he died he was planing a expedition to the western mediterranean.

GS why no barbarians?(if it is set in ancient times)

[Stefan Härtel]

quote: The capital looks to me to be at Mecca

No, Makkah is by far mor south, and near the Red Sea coast. This "capital" could be either Babylon, Baghdad, Ctesiphon or Seleukeia, but it propably is Babylon (?)
It could also be Samarra, a city north of Baghdad which was capital for a while, but if it would be an Islamic city, then why the obvious Carthaginian Empire, why the Celts, and, most importantly, why would the Arabs control Hellas, Byzantion and all of India?

quote: also Alexander (if he had lived past 323) would not have conqured India, when he died he was planing a expedition to the western mediterranean.

Yes, Alexander was planning an Arabian campaign which was due to be started a couple of days after his death, but since there are no Arab cities on the map that isn't much of a factor here.
I, for another turn, wonder if this is the entire city placement. There are no cities in Italy (except for Panormos on Sicily), none in Illyria and so few in Asia Minor (see, not even Sardeis is there) and so few in Iran and Central Asia...


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[WarVoid]

Perhaps this is a "what if?" scenario....

It's definately Carthage, Celts, Greeks, Chinese and Nihonese.

So perhaps it's a what if about if Alex lived and had conquered the rest of the "known" world. Now he has to contend with the rest of the world at large (i.e. Celts, Carthaginians, etc.)???

[Giant Squid]

Stefan and WarVoid have got it, with the slight difference that it's Alexander's fictional son who's going to be doing the world conquest.

As you guessed, the tribes are Celts, Carthaginians, Macedonians, Chinese (in the warring states period, rather than the Zhou period), Japanese (this is about the right era for the mythical founder of Japan, Jimmu, and there's little enough known there that I've given myself free reign to make some stuff up) and (though this wasn't on that map when I made it) the Greeks, who have rebelled against Macedonia as the first part of the scenario. It will, if I get it done, be in six parts, each of which involves the conquest of a different tribe and which has slightly different units, events, etc.



The promised screenshot. If you fail to retake the rebellious Greek cities in time, the Egyptians also start getting ideas. The thing on Cyprus is the new cursor, and the huge ship off the coast of Turkey really shouldn't be around this early in the game, but I wanted to show off the graphic.

To answer the barbarian question, the blue civ is just "Rebels", and they serve all kinds of purposes, including being barbarians when the need arises. There are also some "town" units up in Russia representing tribes that weren't big enough to deserve their own civs and cities.
[This message has been edited by Giant Squid (edited September 02, 2000).]

[Cal]

It looks nice.

So... Giant Squid... how close is your project to completion?

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[Wangshibo]

Beautiful picture! I can't wait...