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**klesh** · April 9, 2000, 13:08

Ok...no comments about the fact I mistyped "America" in the title!

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**Mao** · April 9, 2000, 16:55

you mistyped America? hehehe

The Americans didn't do much in my game either

**Xin Yu** · April 9, 2000, 17:28

In my game I didn't see the Americans

**St Leo** · April 9, 2000, 17:34

This shows the high quality of the American education system.

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**Mao** · April 9, 2000, 19:29

well I'm sorry Mr. Add "eh" to every word

**klesh** · April 9, 2000, 19:34

Very funny Leo

So I guess nobody had them capturing cities? I was hoping for a race, sort of the Democracy vs. Communism- Iron Curtain deal.

Perhaps this is another thing to add to 1.941? More event insertions of American tanks, planes and soldiers. Give 'em high ratings to stimulate the "race to influence" future governments.

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**klesh** · April 9, 2000, 23:23

Well, I just loaded my last .sav file from the summer of '45. Germany was down to 12 Objective points Incedentily, I ended up with a 100% rating. Quite good, and a rather nice, even number I must say.
Since I had the NKVD Agency Wonder, I checked with both the Germans and the Americans, neither of which said they were at war with the other!
I know I saw like three GI units take out a Hummel back in '44, so perhaps there is a problem when you use the bat to call up '45? We'll have to see if Nemo can help us out.
I'll go in and call up the cheat mode to see just what the Americans are up to. Perhaps I can save it, and make my own scenario as the Americans...give myself a whole bunch of units and race the Soviets for the last few turns for fun.
I'll see where the heck the Americans are, and what they are waiting for.

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**Djugashvili** · April 10, 2000, 00:51

The same thing happened with me... I was really hoping for a race for Germany, but instead, I got easy victory! Damn!

So what's up with this, Nemo?

**Captain Nemo** · April 11, 2000, 00:01

The Americans show up in Italy in 1944. Historically they progressed slowly "up the deadly boot".
By Spring of 1945 they cross the Rhine and should start multiplying at very high rates... If there are Germans fighting against them. If the Germans are already pulverized by early 1945 they won't kill any Americans, and the Americans will not multiply. I could move them up to 1944 but that would not be very historical, would it?
In my game I stopped the Red Army advance in the Fall of 1944 after taking Berlin and waited to see what the Americans would do on their own. They came up to Ravenna by the winter of 1944 capturing 3 Italian cities. They were pretty quiet during the winter of 1944-45. In April the Shermans and P-47Ds started appearing and by August they held 15 cities in Western Germany and had approx. 400 units.
If version 1.941 is tougher so Berlin can't be taken until early 1945 then the Americans may prove to be perfectly balanced.

**St Leo** · April 11, 2000, 19:06

Eh?

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**Captain Nemo** · April 13, 2000, 00:26

I thought I had plenty of "Make aggression" commands in the rules. I my game there was no issue... One thing that is very strange though, I think FW executes a unitkilled command as many times as the unit is killed while MPGE seems to only consider the "top" unit in a stack. Some people have told me they couldn't win Stalingrad even when they killed "Paulus"... Why, because the German Feldmarshal unit is stacked with hedgehogs and 88s. If the same happens during the American invasion of 1944-45, it would put a serious dent in the US forces appearing as they usually stack up. If the Germans can wipe out a stack of 10-12 GIs and the US's only reward is one new GI + 1 Sherman tank then the attack will fizzle.
Can you check how many US units were on the casualty board? Do you get multiple messages when a stack of multiple units is killed. (Like settlers/refugees, do you get one partisan for each killed or just one partisan?)
Thanks for taking the time to check this for me.

**klesh** · April 13, 2000, 00:37

Nemo, 400 American units!?! I don't think I saw many more than 4! I was giving the Germans a pretty hard time, but they still had plenty of Kingtigers to throw at the rubble units. The Germans had plenty of units to strike at the Americans, but never did. Could this possibly be due to the fact that neither of them were "at war" with each other when I checked with my foreign minister?

Molotov wouldn't lie, would he?

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**DarthVeda** · April 13, 2000, 06:44

Uh, Nemo, I was playing my last game in MPGE when I got too many units error.

So I somehow doubt the MPGE theory.

I could test it though later today using cheat mode. I'll post back here afterwards.

**klesh** · April 13, 2000, 20:22

On my game, as of September 1945:

US BASE:

1 Costal Fortress
1 vet P-47 (1 in prod)
3 vet AA's
3 vet Sherman's
6 vet GI's
(all units happily fortified)

Casualties:
1 GI
1 Sherman

There were two GI units in the mountains of Italy. Also, when I took the P-47 out for a spin, it couldn't pass the allied sea mines. But if the unit insertions are by death event, neither US Bse production or sea mines are the issue. The miniscule ammount of casualties must be to blame, but then I wonder why the Germans wouldn't attack? As I said before, they had plenty of Kingtigers for the rubble!

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[This message has been edited by Field Marshal Klesh (edited April 13, 2000).]

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