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Finally a scenario where I can conquer evil Norway! 
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Originally posted by EmuGod
Finally a scenario where I can conquer evil Norway!
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Just saw this one as well!Originally posted by Case
...and moose cavalry
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This sounds interesting, Eivind. Are you going to focus just on Narvik, or the whole of the Norway campaign?
Case - you have British conscripts listed: at this stage of the war the 3 (?) brigades of infantry sent to Norway would surely have been regulars. The Territorial divisions were still not committed to battle when France was invaded a short while later, although some were sent to France as labour battalions. In fact, weren't a brigade of Guards sent to Norway?
All of this musing is fairly academic, as the British and French performed poorly compared with the better trained and led German units, with the possible exception of the action at Narvik itself.
BTW, the Polish troops were a mountain brigade (I think) equipped and organised by the French. Not sure what the Polish name for this unit was....Comment
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I was about to focus on the Narvik campaign, but then I changed my mind
. I have a great map for a future Narvik campaign though, with lots of fjords and everything . This one will be about the invasion of Norway...
You would be more than welcome to make some units for this one, btw Gareth
. Hehe, no pressure!
You guys are the history experts I was requesting! I would be very thanklful if you'd help out!
Now I'm going to take the weekend! Have fun go mad! Cheers
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Originally posted by fairline
Case - you have British conscripts listed: at this stage of the war the 3 (?) brigades of infantry sent to Norway would surely have been regulars. The Territorial divisions were still not committed to battle when France was invaded a short while later, although some were sent to France as labour battalions. In fact, weren't a brigade of Guards sent to Norway?
You may be right... The timeframe is rather short for any of the conscripts to have been considered battle-ready, even by the panicked and incompetant British authorities. From memory though, the force which was originally trained and equiped to go to Norway ended up somewhere else, with the forces that actually went being rushed together in a matter of days(!).
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I just checked Correlli Barnett's brilliant book Engage the Enemy More Closely and he states that the main British Army formations sent to Norway were the 24th Guards Brigade (to Narvik) the 146th Territorial Brigade (to Namos) and the 148th Territorial Brigade (to Andalsnes). All the brigades were without most of their artillery and engineers, and, critically, very few AA guns were sent with the force. These brigades were supported by the usual collection of Royal Marines, naval landing parties, Independant Companies and other eccentric odds and ends that always seem to go hand in hand with Britain's military cock-ups.
As Barnett describes it, the Norwegian Campaign was 'a Churchillian Disaster' brought about by his tendency to apply ad-hoc piecemeal fixes to critical problems.'Arguing with anonymous strangers on the internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be - or to be indistinguishable from - self-righteous sixteen year olds possessing infinite amounts of free time.'
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I stand corrected! That accounts for the better performance of the British at Narvik if the Guards Brigade was sent there. There was one regular brigade as well: 15th Brigade were sent to Norway as well, according to my source book.
Note to Eivind: if you are wondering which troops in the British OOB should be conscripts (Territorials) or regulars, the 1st and 2nd Battalians of a regiment were regular while battalians numbered 4 and higher from the same regiment would be conscripts.Comment
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Yeah, and if I'd bothered to check the Allied OOB I posted myself I would have spotted itOriginally posted by fairline
There was one regular brigade as well: 15th Brigade were sent to Norway as well, according to my source book.
(Barnett's book deserves the plug though - it really is brilliant)
Weren't the Territorals reservists, and not conscripts?conscripts (Territorials)'Arguing with anonymous strangers on the internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be - or to be indistinguishable from - self-righteous sixteen year olds possessing infinite amounts of free time.'
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Just to keep the interest up
Some ski troops...Attached FilesComment
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I'm fearing this scen will be too lopsided...what do you guys think?Comment
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German bicycle infAttached FilesComment
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@Fairline: Would I be rude if I asked you of help with making some of the units listed above? Like all those different infantry's for example...
Please let me know if you think I'm stepping on your toes now...Comment
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I think that it could be well balanced - if you set it up so that if the Norwegians have the opportunity to fully mobalise their army if they can hold out for the first few turns, then they should be able to win. The Norwegian campaign was a big gamble for the Germans, and if they'd had worse luck (and the British been competant) then it would have ended in disarster.Originally posted by Kobra
I'm fearing this scen will be too lopsided...what do you guys think?'Arguing with anonymous strangers on the internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be - or to be indistinguishable from - self-righteous sixteen year olds possessing infinite amounts of free time.'
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Very well!
When naming the cities, should I exclude the letters 'ø (oe)' and 'å (aa)'? Those are not English letters I mean...
BTW: I've made a giga Norway map, so there will be enough space to romp on
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