Question concerning units

[jim panse]

Is there a possibility to create units with the Cheat Mode option 'Create Unit' which have a homehown of their own?

Thanks in advance!

[Elok]

Um, what do you mean by, "a hometown of their own"? Do you mean have the units support from a non-existent city, or what?

[jim panse]

I meant a unit created through the Cheat Mode at one edge of the map and the hometown is on the other edge of the map. This possible?

[Palaiologos]

Well yes.

Just create the unit and then edit it via the same menu(Ctrl+Shift+U) and select "Set homecity".


since we are on topic...

Can someone explain what exactly is going on with the musketeer slot?

[jim panse]

Thanks a lot, Pericles!

Can someone explain what exactly is going on with the musketeer slot?

Musketeer and Knight Slots
These two slots may have unexpected effect of making units with certain characteristics unavailable even when they are not obsolete according to the tech tree. If you do not understand how to use these two slots I suggest that you simply not use them.
When I say "not use them", I mean do not make them available to the civilizations. They will still appear as barbarians if you have not eliminated barbarians, even if you set prerequisites to No-No. One possible way to escape from any complications is to make them air units with zero movements and pretend they are statues (with the appropriate graphics).
Please refer to Using Your Units <http://sleague.apolyton.net/Guides/sldt_useunits.shtml> by Mike Daumen, which explains the mystery behind these slots very eloquently.

[rmsharpe]

First image: Allied armies supplied from Abu Dhabi (right) are preparing to take Riyadh (left) back from the Iraqis.

Second image: The allies include Israel and Egypt, who are willing to aid in the U.S.-backed forces with support from their cities.

Third image: There's the mechanized infantry unit, currently supported by Abu Dhabi.

Fourth image: The cheat menu, pull down to "Edit Unit."

Fifth image: "Set Home City." This is the tool to set what city the unit is supplied from.

Sixth image: Choose whichever city you want to have the unt supplied from. Not shown is a button at the bottom that will say "None," which will make the unit cost-free, since it will have no home city which will be listed as "NONE" (unless you've changed it like in some of Curt's scenarios)

[rmsharpe]

Well, I guess I've got too much time on my hands. Maybe I'll compile that info into a tutorial later or something.

[Palaiologos]

That is what i had thought with the musketeers, but thing is i WANT the unit in that slot to have that ability(making others obsolete) but can't to.

Damnit!

[Elok]

I thought it was just a matter of having a greater or equal defense compared to other units with the same role. It might be necessary for that role to be 1. I just remember this vaguely from Harlan Thompson's FAQ.

[Palaiologos]

Originally posted by jim panse
One possible way to escape from any complications is to make them air units with zero movements and pretend they are statues (with the appropriate graphics).

!!!!!!???????

Someone has actually done that?

[rmsharpe]

It was done in "Riverwar" for the...well, rivers.

[William Keenan]

When the musketeer is "discovered" all units become obsolete that have a role of 1 and a defense less than that of the mustketeer .

[Palaiologos]

Ah!

It must be "discovered".

If the civ starts already possesing the technology then the effect is cancelled.

[William Keenan]

I'm not sure that is true. Post the @units section of your rules.txt. What version are you using ToT, MGE?

[Palaiologos]

MGE.

Immigrants, no, 0, 0.,0, 0a,1d, 2h,1f, 4,0, 5, no, 000000000000000
Settlers, X1, 0, 2.,0, 0a,1d, 2h,1f, 6,0, 5, War, 000000000000000
F.Warriors, X4, 0, 1.,0, 3a,2d, 1h,2f, 1,0, 3, U1, 000100000000000
Limitanii, no, 0, 1.,0, 1a,2d, 1h,1f, 6,0, 1, no, 000000000000000
Legio palatina,Phi, 0, 1.,0, 1a,3d, 2h,1f, 9,0, 1, Too, 000000000000000
Limitanii, no, 0, 1.,0, 1a,2d, 1h,1f, 6,0, 1, no, 000000000000000
Levy, nil, 0, 1.,0, 1a,1d, 1h,1f, 4,0, 1, X2, 000000000000000
Horse Archers,nil, 0, 2.,0, 4a,2d, 1h,2f, 6,0, 0, Mat, 000000000000000
Light infantry,nil, 0, 1.,0, 3a,2d, 2h,1f, 7,0, 1, Phi, 000010000000000
Partisans, no, 0, 1.,0, 4a,4d, 2h,1f, 5,0, 1, no, 000001000000010
Goths, X4, 0, 1.,0, 4a,2d, 2h,1f, 4,0, 0, U3, 000000000000000
G.Warriors, X4, 0, 1.,0, 3a,2d, 1h,2f, 1,0, 0, U3, 000101000000000
S.Warriors, X4, 0, 1.,0, 4a,2d, 1h,2f, 1,0, 0, U2, 000000000000000
A.Irregulars, X4, 0, 0.,0, 4a,2d, 2h,1f, 2,0, 0, X3, 000000000000000
Auxilia palatina,Phi, 0, 1.,0, 1a,2d, 2h,1f, 8,0, 1, Too, 000001000000000
Huns, no, 0, 3.,0, 3a,1d, 1h,1f, 2,0, 0, no, 000000000000000
Cataphracts, nil, 0, 2.,0, 6a,2d, 2h,1f, 9,0, 0, Map, 000000000000000
Elephants, X4, 0, 1.,0, 5a,1d, 3h,1f, 12,0, 0, X2, 000010000000000
Avars, X4, 0, 3.,0, 6a,1d, 2h,1f, 4,0, 0, U2, 000000000000000
Cavalry, nil, 0, 2.,0, 4a,2d, 2h,1f, 7,0, 0, X4, 000000000000000
Bucelarii, nil, 0, 2.,0, 5a,3d, 2h,1f, 11,0, 0, Phi, 000000000000000
Foederatii, nil, 0, 2.,0, 4a,1d, 2h,1f, 5,0, 0, Phi, 000000000000000
Armor, nil, 0, 3.,0, 10a,5d, 3h,1f, 8,0, 0, no, 000000000000000
Onager, nil, 0, 1.,0, 7a,1d, 2h,2f, 9,0, 0, Eng, 000000000000000
Cannon, Too, 0, 1.,0, 8a,1d, 2h,1f, 4,0, 0, no, 000000000000000
Artillery, Rob, 0, 1.,0, 10a,1d, 2h,2f, 5,0, 0, no, 000000000000000
Howitzer, nil, 0, 2.,0, 12a,2d, 3h,2f, 7,0, 0, no, 000000001000000
Vandals, no, 0, 1.,0, 5a,2d, 2h,2f, 4,0, 0, no, 000001000000000
Foederatii, nil, 0, 1.,0, 3a,3d, 2h,1f, 6,0, 1, Exp, 000000000000000
Infantry, nil, 0, 1.,0, 2a,4d, 2h,2f, 8,0, 0, Phi, 000000000000000
Lombards, no, 0, 1.,0, 7a,3d, 2h,1f, 1,0, 0, no, 000001000000000
Turks, nil, 0, 3.,0, 6a,2d, 1h,2f, 7,0, 0, Tac, 000000000000001
Liburne, NF, 2, 4.,0, 1a,1d, 1h,1f, 4,2, 4, MT, 000000000000000
Dromon, Pot, 2, 5.,0, 2a,2d, 1h,1f, 5,3, 4, NF, 000000000000000
Galleon, Rec, 2, 4.,0, 0a,2d, 2h,1f, 4,4, 4, Pot, 000000000000000
Frigate, E1, 2, 4.,0, 4a,2d, 2h,1f, 5,2, 2, Mag, 000000000000000
Ironclad, E1, 2, 4.,0, 4a,4d, 3h,1f, 6,0, 2, no, 000000000000000
Destroyer, nil, 2, 6.,0, 4a,4d, 3h,1f, 6,0, 2, no, 100000000000001
Cruiser, Roc, 2, 5.,0, 6a,6d, 3h,2f, 8,0, 2, no, 100000000000001
Pronoia Allagion,nil, 0, 3.,0, 7a,3d, 2h,1f, 11,0, 0, Mob, 000000000000000
Picts, nil, 0, 1.,0, 4a,2d, 1h,1f, 3,0, 0, no, 000001000000000
Knights, nil, 0, 2.,0, 6a,3d, 2h,2f, 12,0, 0, Rob, 000000000000000
Mamluks, nil, 0, 3.,0, 6a,4d, 2h,2f, 8,0, 0, Wri, 000000010000001
Transport, nil, 2, 5.,0, 0a,3d, 3h,1f, 5,8, 4, no, 000000000000000
Cruise Msl., nil, 1, 12.,1, 18a,0d, 1h,3f, 6,0, 0, no, 001000000000000
Nuclear Msl., nil, 1, 16.,1, 99a,0d, 1h,1f, 16,0, 0, no, 001000000000000
Diplomat, nil, 0, 1.,0, 0a,0d, 1h,1f, 7,0, 6, Cmp, 000000000000010
Spy, nil, 0, 3.,0, 0a,0d, 1h,1f, 3,0, 6, Esp, 000000000000011
Caravan, nil, 0, 1.,0, 0a,1d, 1h,1f, 5,0, 7, Tra, 000000000000010
Freight, nil, 0, 2.,0, 0a,1d, 1h,1f, 5,0, 7, Cor, 000000000000010
Explorer, Gue, 0, 1.,0, 0a,1d, 1h,1f, 3,0, 0, no, 000001000000010
Gothic cavalry,no, 0, 2.,0, 5a,1d, 2h,1f, 6,0, 0, no, 000010000000000
Goths, nil, 0, 1.,0, 4a,3d, 2h,1f, 5,0, 0, no, 000001000000000
The True Cross,nil, 0, 0.,0, 0a,0d, 0h,0f, 18,0, 0, Gue, 000000000000000
Praetorians, nil, 0, 0.,0, 4a,4d, 2h,1f, 10,0, 1, X5, 000000000000000
Guards, nil, 0, 1.,0, 4a,4d, 2h,1f, 18,0, 1, X5, 000010000000000
Limitanii, nil, 0, 1.,0, 1a,2d, 1h,1f, 6,0, 1, no, 000000000000000
Scholae, nil, 0, 2.,0, 5a,3d, 2h,1f, 18,0, 0, X5, 000000000000000
Test Unit 5, nil, 0, 1.,0, 0a,1d, 2h,1f, 4,0, 5, no, 000000000000000
Crusaders, nil, 0, 1.,0, 7a,4d, 2h,1f, 12,0, 0, no, 000000000000000
Test Unit 7, nil, 0, 1.,0, 0a,1d, 2h,1f, 4,0, 5, no, 000000000000000
Test Unit 8, nil, 0, 1.,0, 0a,1d, 2h,1f, 4,0, 5, no, 000000000000000