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  • Reformation Pros and Cons?

    I was playing (in the tutorial still) and i decided to see what happen if i had a reformation.

    Well what happened is my stability dropped like a rock, but at the same time got TONS of money! and my taxes seems to increase their monthly and yearly incomes. The stability quickly went back up.

    I guess your relations with other nations goes up/down depending on what they are. .

    anyway, whats you opinions on reformations? how to use them to your advantage? when to do them? etc?
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  • #2
    Depends...

    If your a Northern state, it is in your interest to change religion. Protestantism gets you more money, Reformed, however, gets you 2 settlers a year (compared to Protestantism's 1). Also, there is the 'Militant Reformed' effect giving your troops another morale level.

    Southern state, stay Catholic. You don't want massive revolts.
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    • #3
      Catholicism:
      +2 Diplomats

      Counter-Reformed Catholicism:
      +2 Diplomats
      +1 Colonist
      Able to convert others
      -20% Income

      Protestantism:
      +1 Diplomat
      +1 Colonist
      Higher Production and Taxes
      Up to +3 Merchants/coastal province
      Negative bonus in Stability "research"

      Reformist:
      +1 Diplomat
      +3 Colonists
      Up to +3 Merchants/coastal province
      -30% Income
      Positive bonus in Stability "research"
      Better morale.

      Orthodox:
      +1 Colonist

      Shiite:
      +2 Colonists
      -30% Income
      Better Morale

      Sunni:
      No advantages/disadvantages

      Basically, if you're in Northern Europe and you plan on become a major colonial/trade power (Netherlands, England, possibly even Prussia, Denmark, or Sweden), switch to Reformist. Otherwise, stick with Protestantism. If you're in Southern Europe and plan on colonising (Spain, Portugal, France, maybe parts of Italy), switch to Counter-Reformed. Switching between Sunni and Shiite is generally futile.
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      • #4
        Catholics can also gain bonuses for extra coastal provinces, but those have to be protestant. I am France and I get something like this:

        +1 costal provinces
        +3 stability
        +2 protestant coastal provinces
        +14 centers of trade
        +8 monopolies

        or something like that. I don't know if the last two are right, I lost count
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        • #5
          quote:

          Southern state, stay Catholic. You don't want massive revolts.


          I couldn't disagree more. The inital, automatic revolts which occur right after the switch, though disruptive, are easy enough to put down, and further uprisings can be minimized or stoped by paying attention to the religious tolerence sliders. Most of the southern states (venice, austria, and german or italian minors) actually require the extra colonists to be able to compete with the bigger nations later in the game, and counter-reformed is only a temporary solution.

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          • #6
            Well, it ain't fun being an Austrian Protestant, I can tell you that.

            All the nations around you get pissed and with the badboy the way it is, you are royally screwed!
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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