HoI, EU, or what?

[Dr. Nick]

Hearts of Iron post 1.03b is excellent. No more conquering Europe by 1940 though.

EU2 is empire building. HoI is strategic level warfare.

[yin26]

I think HoI needs a bit more patching, but with Paradox, you know you'll get great patching, so there's really no risk in buying the game. However, EU2 has just received (months after release, no less) a stellar patch that, while making the game more difficult, makes you face a wonderfully delicate balancing act between war, stability, economy, religion, etc.

As I've only just got my copy of HoI recently, perhaps I've yet to discover its greatness. But I have to say that at this point, EU2 is the better game if you don't mind long periods of planned peace as you try to secure allies and the requisite domestic development to handle the invasions that no doubt you plan to launch against your pesky neighbors.

By the way, in contrast to the broken AI in MOO3, you *will* get pounded in EU2 if you don't play in a smart manner...

[CharlesBHoff]

I will het heart of Iron. Does it allow you to research jet plane, missiles, and nuclear weapon. I was reading than book recent on old plane. One of the Germany Aircraft Company in 1936 make than jet fighter which the Germany
airforce want, but was turn down by the government for other reason. Let see Germany invade Polland with jet fighter and bomder and nuked Warsword with than 20 kton
bomb.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by CharlesBHoff
I will het heart of Iron. Does it allow you to research jet plane, missiles, and nuclear weapon. I was reading than book recent on old plane. One of the Germany Aircraft Company in 1936 make than jet fighter which the Germany
airforce want, but was turn down by the government for other reason. Let see Germany invade Polland with jet fighter and bomder and nuked Warsword with than 20 kton
bomb.

Yes, you are capable of reaching semi-modern technologies in the game. It's a bit difficult to do though, and usually requires specializing in a field while mising out in others, unless you have a huge industrial base.

[Jon Shafer]

Originally posted by yin26

By the way, in contrast to the broken AI in MOO3, you *will* get pounded in EU2 if you don't play in a smart manner...

Yes, the EU AI is quite impressive. I can't tell you how annoying it is to play the Ottoman Empire, while trying to capture all those Venetian islands with all their fleets running around. Every now and then they'll land 10,000 or so troops in Anatolia, which is always a pain to deal with too...

[CharlesBHoff]

The orginate AI in MOO3 was so hard to beat that gametest
complain that it was inpossible to beat the AI on the easy setting that two week before the release of the game they tone down the AI and didnot have enought time to test this new tone down AI , by change one number can change than few hundred's value in the computer games when it run.

[Henrik]

Originally posted by St Leo
If it's resource management you are after, then you can't go wrong with archaelogically excavating a copy of Imperialism II somewhere.

Am I the only one who honestly like Imperialism 1 more than it's sequel?


Oh and does anyone know anything at all about they are going to finnish EU2 for mac?

[Reinhard-Baer]

It really depends what you want judging from your description HoI is THE game. I love it and in my opinion it's even better than EU. Well perhaps because I'm a WWII buff but well I like the timeframe and above all: I like Panzer on the road, the all mighty steel fleet at sea and the Luftwaffe in the air striking with their Dive Bomber Wow what a game. And furthermore never forget the diplo-aspect. Nobody can win the game alone and you would be well advised to search for allies in peace time. At war it might be too late.