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    Hello everybody,
    I just purchased EU 2 following the instinct.
    Did I make a good choice?
    Who knows?
    I'll explain you why, hoping that anybody can help me.
    - tha manual is not so accurate, it gives a lot of historical info but none on the game (i.e. how do the combat works, how can I modify the values... and so on)
    - the tutorial. completely inaccurate....
    - the scenarios: how do I learn to play? Do I have to go directly in one of tha campaigns where I already have 37 techs, refineries, 9 countries, alliances and royal marriages??? come on!!!
    Is there any scenario where I can start from a reasonable beginning??? (please forget the "boring" Fantasy, I've played about 55 years and not a lot happened except that I send 6 settlers witha 65% of success and none settled....)

    Waiting for any help....

    Mr. N.
    googol... this is a number!
    "Silence Ming. I will let you know when I feel you are needed." - HappySunShine
    "Classic Eyes...But in reality, it works the other way around." - Ming

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    Re: EU II: what I want to understand...

    Originally posted by Messer Niccolò
    ... and not a lot happened except that I send 6 settlers witha 65% of success and none settled....)
    well, let me explain, I've settled some land, the odd is that when I send 6 settlers witha 65-80% probability of success, I expect at least one to succeed!!!
    And how can 5200 natives make mincemeat of my 12000 cavalry and 6000 infantry???

    Where do I find Conquistadores and leaders? My leaders are almost always 2,2,2!!!!!!

    AAAAARGHHHHH!!!!
    googol... this is a number!
    "Silence Ming. I will let you know when I feel you are needed." - HappySunShine
    "Classic Eyes...But in reality, it works the other way around." - Ming

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    • #3
      Re: Re: EU II: what I want to understand...

      Originally posted by Messer Niccolò


      well, let me explain, I've settled some land, the odd is that when I send 6 settlers witha 65-80% probability of success, I expect at least one to succeed!!!
      And how can 5200 natives make mincemeat of my 12000 cavalry and 6000 infantry???
      Ahh the lying percentagenumber. A classic annoyance. What can I say? It's completely false.

      Where do I find Conquistadores and leaders? My leaders are almost always 2,2,2!!!!!!

      AAAAARGHHHHH!!!!
      They appear in random/historical events.

      The manual is indeed cräp, but if you have any specific questions you can always ask hear.
      Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I've seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked.

      -Homer Simpson

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      • #4
        Is there any scenario where I can start from a reasonable beginning??? (please forget the "boring" Fantasy, I've played about 55 years and not a lot happened except that I send 6 settlers witha 65% of success and none settled....)

        Russia in the Age of Revolutions scenario.

        The game is brilliant. Most people learn to play it simply by...playing it.
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        • #5
          I actually played the Tutorial.. . which I normally dont even install
          It wasnt that half bad :=)

          Well but I have a specific Question anyway:
          Imagine:
          Prussia 1450
          After havion' had Wars with nearly everyone arrojnd it Prussia finally settle the Conflicts and add Huge New Lands to his own
          Problem: Prussia has to station HUGE Armies at some Places /small Armies everywhereas those States tend to revolute quite often
          And I 'm not sure what to do about them, They are teh Same Religion I set My inner Ploticiscs to Decentralization
          the only Cause I can see is taht the AI has put uhh dun kno wthe English word: The Channelor? Well teh Guy that raises taxes and Unhappiness..
          The Unhappines Percent is ~3%(When the academies will be build in 2 Years)
          I think I canceld out every Minus except that Nationality thing? What to do about it?
          Help! Prussia needs his Money for Factories not for Soldiers (at least not in a while )


          Excuse the typos it IS 3o' clock in the Morning and those Polish wont let me Sleep...
          Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

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          • #6
            The nationalism-thingy decreases every tenth year. After ten year you'll have 2% unhappiness, after twenty 1%, etc. Nothing you can do about it, it is most annoying, I know.
            Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I've seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked.

            -Homer Simpson

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            • #7
              Arrrgghhhh!!! 30 Years of Suppression by Armies which I cant pay? Eeeekk!
              Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

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              • #8
                Yepps, but the rebellions are quite scarce at 1-2%. It's the price of expansion anyway. :P
                Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I've seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked.

                -Homer Simpson

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                • #9
                  Expansion?
                  I warned all my Neighbours it was their Fault. I only went to 'protect' the Prussian Empire

                  Btw is there any way to repair my really REALLY messed up reputation? :=)Suddenly all of them have Casus belli.. -200 Rep only fuels my evermarchibng Army
                  Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

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                  • #10
                    Weeell I think not. I believe that it only increases over time. If you're peaceful for a longer period it'll mend right up.

                    Nothing to do really but make peace and lie low.
                    Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I've seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked.

                    -Homer Simpson

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                    • #11
                      Re: Re: Re: EU II: what I want to understand...

                      Originally posted by Pavlov


                      Ahh the lying percentagenumber. A classic annoyance. What can I say? It's completely false.
                      Actually it's not. In the long run the percentages are correct. It's just that the EU engine has a thing with streaks in the random generator... You don't complain when you get positive streaks though...
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Main_Brain
                        Expansion?
                        I warned all my Neighbours it was their Fault. I only went to 'protect' the Prussian Empire

                        Btw is there any way to repair my really REALLY messed up reputation? :=)Suddenly all of them have Casus belli.. -200 Rep only fuels my evermarchibng Army
                        Well, annexing neighbouring provinces=expansion, no matter how the annexation happened

                        If you by reputation mean the relations (-200) you can bribe them with money (send gifts). If you mean the reputation (like in "Your reputation is slightly tarnished") there is nothing to do but wait...
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                        • #13
                          Hehe Funny thing is that im too strong noone dared to wage War against me .. yet
                          Possible because of my powerful Vassals Bremen ;=)
                          Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

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                          • #14
                            There are several ways to improve your BB score. In a game with a normal difficulty setting your reputation will improve one point every four years and it will improve by one point for every provience you release as a vassal. Of course you just spent all that time comquoring the territory so I imagine you don't want to let them go. Military Annexations ruin your reputation so a better way is to force them to be your vassals and diploannex them in 30-40 years. You will only get a small hit on your BB and you will still end up with the same territory.
                            Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                            • #15
                              [quote]The nationalism-thingy decreases every tenth year. After ten year you'll have 2% unhappiness, after twenty 1%, etc. Nothing you can do about it, it is most annoying, I know./quote]
                              I'm not sure of EU II but in EU I war weariness also contributes to the chance for revolution. I think if you fight for 5 or 10 years, yopu have more chance for revolutions.
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