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  • Wrong strategy for Byzantium there Matias. Your first target should be the duchy of Hellas. Annex it within the first year. Then launch an attack on albania with a portion of your forces. Conquer them and ask for a peace treaty all their money-they somehow have more than 700 ducats. Simultaneously board some troops on your ships and annex Cyprus. You should have won both wars by 1422(Spend all your money on infantry, since both Cyprus and Albania are mountainous). After you get the albanian gold take on the Knights of Rhodes-repel any Papal reaction by stationing Cavalry armies in Hellas. Then take on Albania again even if you are engaged in a war with Venice or Genoa. Annex them and attack Ragusa and Bosnia. Afterwards it is Turkey's turn and Venice's. Always operate your fleet en masse so you will be able to destroy piecemeal the Venetian fleets. Invest only in land Technolgy.
    "Military training has three purposes: 1)To save ourselves from becoming subjects to others, 2)to win for our own city a possition of leadership, exercised for the benefit of others and 3)to exercise the rule of a master over those who deserve to be treated as slaves."-Aristotle, The Politics, Book VII

    All those who want to die, follow me!
    Last words of Emperor Constantine XII Palaiologos, before charging the Turkish hordes, on the 29th of May 1453AD.

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    • Now that i think of it, is anybody on for a Multiplayer game of EUII?

      I have never played one.
      "Military training has three purposes: 1)To save ourselves from becoming subjects to others, 2)to win for our own city a possition of leadership, exercised for the benefit of others and 3)to exercise the rule of a master over those who deserve to be treated as slaves."-Aristotle, The Politics, Book VII

      All those who want to die, follow me!
      Last words of Emperor Constantine XII Palaiologos, before charging the Turkish hordes, on the 29th of May 1453AD.

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      • Originally posted by Palaiologos
        Now that i think of it, is anybody on for a Multiplayer game of EUII?

        I have never played one.
        no thanks... but I would like to see more of Heresson's maps.
        ~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~

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        • Originally posted by Palaiologos
          Wrong strategy for Byzantium there Matias. Your first target should be the duchy of Hellas. Annex it within the first year. Then launch an attack on albania with a portion of your forces. Conquer them and ask for a peace treaty all their money-they somehow have more than 700 ducats. Simultaneously board some troops on your ships and annex Cyprus. You should have won both wars by 1422(Spend all your money on infantry, since both Cyprus and Albania are mountainous). After you get the albanian gold take on the Knights of Rhodes-repel any Papal reaction by stationing Cavalry armies in Hellas. Then take on Albania again even if you are engaged in a war with Venice or Genoa. Annex them and attack Ragusa and Bosnia. Afterwards it is Turkey's turn and Venice's. Always operate your fleet en masse so you will be able to destroy piecemeal the Venetian fleets. Invest only in land Technolgy.
          Interesting... But yes, indeed, my first step was anecting Athens. The rest... Well, I had almost no money for any research at first, all on money, because of debts and wars... Now it should be better. i didn't have any time to play EU or draw maps recently due to my exam, but I'll do it now
          Unless I'll learn I failed...
          "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
          I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
          Middle East!

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          • I can't draw maps yet, as paintbrush somehow is not installed at my computer. But I was having nice conquests. I allied with Nubia; except for Cairo and Delta, which are of my allies', the rest of Egypt with entire Syria, Palestine, Tunisia, Cyrenaica was conquered by me. I also crushed Persia; Kurdistan,
            Azerbaydzan, and all the coast up to Ormuz is mine,
            as well as Bahrajn. Katar is posessity of my ally.
            I took Armenia, Dagestan and Soczi from Georgia and vassalised them. Also, I reduced their vassal, Ukraine,
            to one province, and conquered (with Poland) Lithuania
            except for Ukraine, Wolyn, Lithuania and one more province which are Polish now. I conquered Kurlandia, Polock and Kurlandia also. However, my second attack
            on Teutonic Knights, and one on Genua was not succesfull. I must have artillery. I have three market centres (Isfahan, Alexandria, Kurlandia), and one is of my vassal (Venice), so I should be able to reach it.
            However, my game is kind of hard, as I have 90% inflation. I'm researching infrastructure and land technology only now.

            Oh, and I have my French savegame after all.
            "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
            I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
            Middle East!

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            • The strategy for Byzantium that has worked best for me, is to build up a huge cavalery only army, DoW OE, and let them spill their troops on me, before splitting up my army and siege all/most of OE's provinces.

              PS! With such a long thread, I didn't want to read the whole thread, but I hope I didn't write the same as someone else.:P
              Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God.-Isaiah 41:10
              I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made - Psalms 139.14a
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              • My Byzantine Empire is ever growing. I reduced Poland to Masovia and Lithuania, Austria to Vienna,
                and in two or three great wars with France took large parts of it plus Genua. I could vassalise it all, but decided otherwise. Also, I anected or vassalised large part of Germany, and took European provinces of Netherlands. I need to take their colonies to finish the war, though.
                "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
                Middle East!

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                • I vassalised Sweden by force and took three provinces from them. I reduced France to several hopeless shreds.
                  I humilitated Spain and took their Italian posessities from them (not to mention Roussilion and Barcelona).
                  I vassalised Netherlands by force and took a half of England.
                  "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                  I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
                  Middle East!

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                  • What about Prussia??
                    And I can only repeat: Make Screenshots per Prnt and attach 'em :=)
                    Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

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                    • I'll try.
                      What about Prussia?
                      When it comes to Klajpeda (Memel),
                      it is my province, and is converted to orthodox faith.
                      When it comes to Prussia itself;

                      Germany was in one time a field where several mights appeared. One was -- duchy of Klewe (sic!), which became pretty big in western Germany and netherlands,
                      but wars with France made it weak, and eventually it was attacked by me, reduced considerably and vassalised. The second one was Pomorze Zachodnie,
                      (Western) Pomerania, which stretched from Baltic to Czechy, with Sudety and £u¿yce in it, as well as part of Netherlands. Pomerania, however, was crippled by revolts, which made Brandenburgia and Netherlands and other states appear, and eventually it was vassalised and annexed by Sweden. £u¿yce and Sudety, under rebels' control, were Swedish province untill I took £u¿yce and vassalised Sudety with the rest of Sweden. Brandenburg in this time grew in power,
                      crippling Poland and taking its western part just in time when I attacked it. I conquered entire brandenburg and took much of them, but Brandenburg itself remained independant; meanwhile, western part of Western Pomerania got independant from Sweden and later it was annexed by Brandenburg; with Prussia, it formed Prussia, a very remarkable state, as somehow they made their provinces, as well as Denmark,very rich.
                      I look greedy on it, but yet i fight with others.
                      Anyway, Prussia twice attacked what remained of Poland (Masovia+Lithuania), and it seemed it will conquer it; but no. Poland took Prussia (province) instead. that's how the situation with Prussia looks like.

                      When it comes to the general game;

                      in a great was against France, Spain and several others mights, I took the most profitable provinces of Spain, including captured by them earlier Lisbon and Toledo.
                      France in Europe is limited to Paris, Palatinate (which was once annexed by me, set free as a vassal because it was calvinist, and then annexed by France despite me declaring war on them), and Languedoc.
                      Sieges of Wandea and of Kercz were very long.
                      I destroyed Navarre completely, holstein as well,
                      reduced Czechy to one vassal province (and it had posessities in northern Germany).
                      Also, i recuded and vassalised Wales and Puritans.
                      I started a great missionary action to get rid of all protestants, and then all muslims out of my state.
                      My German provinces and English ones are orthodox already.
                      Now, I started a war against England/Denmark/Teutonic Knights. teutonic Knights are already reduced and vassalised, England is entirely conquered (but their Dublin and their colonies aren't... My fleet is still very weak). Denmark is slowly being conquered.
                      My dear Sweden was so nice to declare war on it too,
                      but unfortunatelly it backed off later despite it could conquer it easily.
                      it's year 1756 I think.
                      "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                      I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
                      Middle East!

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                      • I had a lot of problems at the start of year 1750. The game kept on trashing. I managed to get through that, though;
                        I loaded the game as another civ and got back to Byzantines when I passed the "crashing" day, january the second.
                        "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                        I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
                        Middle East!

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                        • Lithunia heads for Victory

                          Well GC that is
                          Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

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                          • Lithunia on the Rise

                            Lithunis is researching TableDancers while chilling and generally minding its own Biz when suddenly attacked by the Evil Swedes!
                            They dont seem to own tables so Greed took obviously over.
                            Lit will teach those Pirates of the Bay a Lesson!
                            In other News: some crazy german seems to spread strange Ideas in Europe..
                            Pope will surely Tech him a Lesson! Stayed at Catholicism.
                            Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

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                            • Nice. When it comes to me, I'll start making a map right away.
                              "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                              I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
                              Middle East!

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                              • Originally posted by Heresson
                                Nice. When it comes to me, I'll start making a map right away.




                                NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!




                                "Military training has three purposes: 1)To save ourselves from becoming subjects to others, 2)to win for our own city a possition of leadership, exercised for the benefit of others and 3)to exercise the rule of a master over those who deserve to be treated as slaves."-Aristotle, The Politics, Book VII

                                All those who want to die, follow me!
                                Last words of Emperor Constantine XII Palaiologos, before charging the Turkish hordes, on the 29th of May 1453AD.

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