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[Kropotkin]

Yep it's madness but it's worth it after a while. I'll give you a few hints.

Messages pop up left and right while you're trying to do something (yes - I found the 50 page screen that allows you to customize this)

You can also rightclick on the message when it pops up and change it that way, much easier as I see it.

POW! I'm punched with a multicolored screen wherein the different colors appear to be for cosmetic purposes only: shades of green, brown and blue!

The colours tells you about the terrain. That affects your troops in a number of ways (speed, how fast they die (always too fast)).

I'm chasing him all over Ireland

Yes this can be annoying, a small swedish army just did that to me in northen russia. The easiest way is to more or less ignore it since it hardly can invade anything after a few punches. Another way is to make peace (no sweat for you since you've got a permanent casus belli against Scotland). You know that you must make peace to get provinces right?

[Depp]

Chronos, stick in there. I promise that it willbe rewarding, this game is the most fun I have ever had with a computer, including civ, civ 2 and Smac.
Like Kropotkin said, rightclick on the messages to change options for them.

When you take scotland there are many good strategies, one that works good is to lure them to attack you and then use the fleet to land troops behind the enemy lines. That way you can annex them and get their remainigng troops as well.

And there are tons of good mods/expansions/tools for EU as well. Replayablility galore...

Kropotkin, king of norrland ? I thought that was me ?
Från skellefteå själv

[Kropotkin]

I'm really from Varberg, just showing up in norrland makes me the king by right!

I'm actually planning to go to Skellefte for trästocksfestivalen to se Randy, otherwise I wouldn't visit a place with a gigantic penis in the town square....

[Chronus]

Hi Kropotkin,

Thanks for the advice. I did find some sections in the manual regarding terrain. Right clicking the message box for options is also a big help. I think I may have to turn everything off. It's near impossible fighting a war when all these messages are popping around. Most importantly, I went to the EU site and downloaded the 1.9 patch . . . I can now save the tutorial!

I'm still having trouble with the hot keys. I try using the 'g' key to combine my armies but it doesn't seem to work. I'll look into this later.

[Depp]

Chronos, first thing to learn is to pause everytime tons of messages pops up. I laways play at maximum speed and they pause whenever something happens, it's a good way to play methinks.

Kropotkin, varberg... hahaha. To bad for yoiu Trästocks usually sucks, bad bands.

Hey that penis is art Is some perverse way

[faded glory]

Thats to bad... I enjoy the game, its amazingly difficult. The AI will kick you around if you are not careful. I enjoy the not so great graphics, because the plot of the game is so good..

As for Conquering the ENTIRE world...Never done! Way too many provinces, so many strange events...

i was once Russia and captured all the khanites, Poland, Sweden, most of the eastern German nations, All of turkey towards istanbul on the Euro continet, all of hungary, Greece, Austria and annexed papal states.. Then the revolts started .

(Didnt bother going into Siberia)

[Slax]

EU is a game I wanted to buy, but was scared away by the talk of its steep learning curve coupled with my miniscule amount of free time. Do you think EU II will solve these problems or will they solve them and add more complexities?

[St Leo]

EU is a game I wanted to buy, but was scared away by the talk of its steep learning curve coupled with my miniscule amount of free time. Do you think EU II will solve these problems or will they solve them and add more complexities?

What steep learning curve? Then again, I did occassionally read the troubleshooting and AAR forums for months before my purchase.

[faded glory]

My first game was great. I was Sweden, I lost all 6 of my wars over the course of the game(had to cede lots of provinces to Russia, Tuetons and danes), and I was economically bankrupt.

Still was an awesome expierence to get manhandled . Diplomacy is more important than anything. If you dont have strong allies in strong places, dont go to war! Usaully after you forge a bond with a nation, the AI will be loyal and send troops to aid you.....eventually. It may take a few months but somthing always comes

Speaking of AAR's the EU website has got thousands of them..

[Cobos]

EU2 will be more intuitive !
I'm a bit afraid of saying too much since I'm bound by an NDA, but EU2 actually looks like a huge improvement over the original. Paradox is fully aware that they got lot of flak over the steep learning curve....
As a side note, some of us rabid EU fans bought the game in German since it was released there first, without actually understanding a word of German, now that is a learning curve ))


Cobos

EU2 Beta tester

[Jools]

lucky sunova...

Anyway Cobos, I think the Paradox team is just great. Really friendly and cool people, cheers

[uglyduck]

Originally posted by Slax
EU is a game I wanted to buy, but was scared away by the talk of its steep learning curve coupled with my miniscule amount of free time. Do you think EU II will solve these problems or will they solve them and add more complexities?

EU2 flattens that curve out very well. There is a very different tutorial that takes you thro' most aspects of the game.
Also the manual is a "real" manual written to ease you into the game and with valuable charts for those that want them.
The transition will be easier this time!

[Darkknight]

I dont know I was at my brothers and he loaded it up fine ten he showed me how to play it for about 30 minutes then he went off.
I was playing as the russians and in an hour had conquered the two county guy south of me and had taken one province from the guy below him.
Also it was set to Hard. I haven't played it since then It was never released in Ireland and download sites are all down
Great game and I thought I'd gotten the hang of Econ and war. Another hour I'd have been fine with the rest of it too.

[Agelastus]

Well, as a comparison I found EU significantly easier to learn, and to learn to play well, than games such as Caesar III etc. Thirty minutes getting bored in the tutorial then into a GC as England.................

Maybe it's just 'cause as a historically minded individual who occasionally likes not to conquer the world it really motivated me!

[Shadowstrike]

Ironically, after EU's steep learning curve, I find it far easier toget into other games, like Imperialism II (which confused me last year so much I gave up). Too bad I can barely run EU nowadays with a 4x CD-ROM drive (the other one won't load anything)