Victoria review!

[Asmodean]

Originally posted by Nikolai

The reviewer also mentions that Paradox will make a EU2-->Vickie converter, but no date is set.

As in a converter that converts your saved game from EU2 to Victoria

That would be a truly astonishing feature

Asmodean

[Nikolai]

Yeah, but there is a possibility that he confused CK and Vickie.

[ravagon]

I'm still hoping that Johans post just meant that it shouldn't have been made public yet.

[Ramo]

Just bought it, and have played it all day. ****ing awesome game.

[mowers]

Originally posted by Osweld
Of course you can play long games. That's all you can play. But not leisurely, atleast not like you can in PBEM.

You just cant compare RT with PBEM.

Originally posted by Osweld
First of all, EU is a realtime game, and you can't keep pausing it like you might in singleplayer, because there's a dozen other people there and the game wouldn't go anywhere if it was constantly paused.

But in MP you dont play at 4:1 speeds, you dont need to pause apart from in lengthy peace negiotations.

Originally posted by Osweld
And then when you're not playing it, you're trying to organize a time when everyone can be on at the same time, or looking for people who didn't show up. It's a sort of long, drawn out, franticness.

This isnt counter strike. You want a big intellectual challenge then you have to put some brain power in. You want a big game then there is going to be that corresponding effort.

Originally posted by Osweld
And yes, you can roleplay aswell, but really only between sessions. otherwise you have to do it all in realtime which I personally think is awkward for that kind of roleplaying.

Then just play at a slower speed. There is a plenty of time for role playing, unless you want to renact the countesses ball or something.

The chat logs from my games are just full of dramatic and deep diplomacy, its not like the old snail mail diplomacy games but its not exactly risk.

To put it into perspective the board game needed 7 people and it tooks months. Nothing comes close in complexity for a similar game.

I mean the sort of games that dont take time and effort are things like Age of Empires which is either beer and pretzels level play or for children.

It comes down to what you are looking for. But you cant say it doesnt lend its self to MP when it clearly does, whether you like it or not is a different matter and I can understand why some people may not like it - afterall- its quite niche.

[General Ludd]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that it's no good at all for multiplayer. Just that it doesn't come easy. Like you said, it's a niche. And I really don't think it's dserving of a 9. Maybe when compared strictly to other paradox games, but not as a general score.

And it does appeal to me, by the way, I just don't really have the time for it.

[mowers]

Well to be honest, its a virtual full time occupation, I dont get to play any other games when I am EU-ing and with Victoria out I can see life getting difficult again.

Yeah, I guess 9 isnt perhaps totally warrented, after all its not a pick and play solutionl.

[Main_Brain]

postponed to 17.12 here..
arggh
So anyone got it? How is it?

[General Ludd]

I've had it for a while now, very good game. It's alot more polished then the other ones where at initial release, but still has a few things, major and minor, that need to be patched or worked on.

I've put off playing it any more untill 1.02, partly for an excuse to be playing Civ3 conquests and KOTOR.

[Nikolai]

I think that Vic is very good! As Osweld said, it's quite finished to be so early after release, and I must say that this game could be the game that made me set EU2 aside for some time.

[ixnay]

Sounds awesome.

If I get this for Christmas, that would make it 3 years in a row that I get a Paradox game (2001 - EU2, 2002 - HoI)

[Nikolai]

All good things are three...

[Asmodean]

Nikolai: Can you do a short review with pros and cons. I am trying to decide whether to wish this one for Xmas or no.

Asmodean

[Sandman]

Some of the features sound pretty unhistorical to me. A world market in 1836? Meaningful healthcare in the 19th century? No proto-industrialisation cottage industries?

[ravagon]

Originally posted by Nikolai
All good things are three...

Does that mean he shouldn't buy whatever they release next year?


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