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  • #16
    Play Vij....one of my favorite non-western games...rockin'! And I think that once I've made the switch BACK to Orthodoxy as Byz, I'll be okay....not sure what kind of shape my poor nation will be in...that's a mighty harsh penalty to gain Italian culture, but....too juicy to pass on...so, if I can keep it together, and keep from going bankrupt between now and then, I think I'll be able to survive, but inflation is going to be sky high....

    -=Vel=-
    The list of published books grows. If you're curious to see what sort of stories I weave out, head to Amazon.com and do an author search for "Christopher Hartpence." Help support Candle'Bre, a game created by gamers FOR gamers. All proceeds from my published works go directly to the project.

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    • #17
      It doesn't make sense to go through the pain of switching to Catholicism and then switch back to Orthodoxy. The richest proviences in Europe are Catholic and Catholics get a research bonus over Orthodoxed countries.
      Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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      • #18
        No choice, really. With a monthly income of 4d, there's no way I can afford a (risky, expensive) shot at conversion of the Italian provinces, and all of my provinces are already orthodox...it would be an uphill battle in the extreme if I don't switch back. Besides, I know I can beat the snot out of the AI, research bonus or no....easier and less painful to just eat the -6 stab hit and go back as soon as I'm able...then make up the tech difference with good, aggressive research tactics...

        -=Vel=-
        The list of published books grows. If you're curious to see what sort of stories I weave out, head to Amazon.com and do an author search for "Christopher Hartpence." Help support Candle'Bre, a game created by gamers FOR gamers. All proceeds from my published works go directly to the project.

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        • #19
          Catholics DO NOT get a research bonus over orthodox countries! It's what technology group you are in that determines that. The only way to swich group btw, is through event. In the long run it is best to be catholic IF you want to conquer Europe(which I don't do, it's MUCH more fun to convert Mekka and MEdina!), and IF you can manage the problems that comes with it. And that isn't exactly easy, as you've seen, Vel. BTW, if you get enough of the rich provinces in North-East Africa and West Asia, you won't need the Italian state culture anyway.
          Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God.-Isaiah 41:10
          I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made - Psalms 139.14a
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          • #20
            Well, I don't intend to conquer all of Europe, but I'd like the overall "shape" of my holdings to resemble the Roman Empire of old, so I'll focus on turning the Med into my own private lake, and leave the barbarians in Gaul and the Teutons to themselves....

            -=Vel=-
            The list of published books grows. If you're curious to see what sort of stories I weave out, head to Amazon.com and do an author search for "Christopher Hartpence." Help support Candle'Bre, a game created by gamers FOR gamers. All proceeds from my published works go directly to the project.

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            • #21
              If you keep your slider towards intolerant you will get several spontanious conversions and since you already have Greek, Slavonic and Italian cultures with shields on most of the important proviences it shouldn't be hard to convert all of the Greek proviences except Constantinople.
              Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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              • #22
                But if you play the EEP, you won't get any of the aforementioned goodie events if you are catholic.
                Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God.-Isaiah 41:10
                I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made - Psalms 139.14a
                Also active on WePlayCiv.

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                • #23
                  Yep...just discovered that and started over, since the whole point of playing EEP was to get the extra events....so....I started fresh, with a mind to remain Orthodox....should make for an interesting game....

                  -=Vel=-

                  EDIT: Worse, I discovered that if you switch to Catholic to get Italian culture, if you switch back to Orthodox later, you lose it. I always thought you got to keep it if you switch back....that would make sense, and certainly be a just reward for the HELL you have to endure to get it in the first place....not much point in making the switch, really, unless you just like playing the role of the masochist....
                  The list of published books grows. If you're curious to see what sort of stories I weave out, head to Amazon.com and do an author search for "Christopher Hartpence." Help support Candle'Bre, a game created by gamers FOR gamers. All proceeds from my published works go directly to the project.

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                  • #24
                    i know u don't like plazing one culture nations but how about unifzing Germany bz Meklemburgen... there is at leas CoT...

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                    • #25
                      If I wanted to unify the German culture then I'd go for Austria or Brandinburg as they will at least have events and great leaders.
                      Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                      • #26
                        well i understood that we're looking for sth challengin', and ...Austria -?!- Austria will get its handful of prov anyway

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