Favourite MtG cards?

[Panda]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Ooo, some nasty counter spells are: Arcane Denial, Quash, Rewind, Ertai’s Trickery, and Grip of Amnesia,.

A "friend" played Quash against me when we played with extended decks, and I thought it was pretty good. So I bought some more for myself at GenCon, and now find they're not that good, only being able to counter target instant or sorcery spells.

I replaced them with Rethinks:

Rethink
{2}{U}
Instant
Counter target spell unless its controller pays X, where X is its converted mana cost.

[Urban Ranger]

It can be very good against decks with lots of instant or sorcery cards. For example, if you'd be able to use it on a Lightning Bolt or Fireball? Talking about adding insult to injury!

Rethink looks weak, because you need 3 mana, and doesn't really counter a spell - it's just a very big spike. Granted, if you use something like a triple colour deck, it comes into handy.

[loinburger]

What's the name of that counterspell-type card that has the option of being cast for 0 mana? (IIRC the alternate cost is to remove one of your cards from the game or something.) It's expensive, but it'll sure surprise the hell out of somebody playing a speed deck...

[Mr. President]

Force of Will. Instead of payinig its casting cost, you may remove a blue card in your hand from the game.

It was supposed to be an answer to the first-turn Lightning Bolt.

[Urban Ranger]

Spelljack is a fun counter to have.

[loinburger]

Originally posted by Mr. President
It was supposed to be an answer to the first-turn Lightning Bolt.

Most importantly, it stops a first-turn Necropotence, which was often a game-winner.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by loinburger
Most importantly, it stops a first-turn Necropotence, which was often a game-winner.

Or a first turn channel-ball, which is still legal in Type I, I think.

[loinburger]

Isn't everything legal in Type 1?

[Mr. President]

How does first-turn Necropotence work? Presumably you cast it with Dark Ritual or some such, but how do you do a first-turn kill with it?

[loinburger]

It's not a first-turn kill, just a first-turn tremendous card advantage, which is a deficit that your opponent will almost certainly fail to recover from. First-turn kills are close to impossible to make in non-type 1 decks -- they basically nerf them specifically to prevent them.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by loinburger
Isn't everything legal in Type 1?

Not sure. Aren't there cards banned even for Type 1?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by loinburger
It's not a first-turn kill, just a first-turn tremendous card advantage, which is a deficit that your opponent will almost certainly fail to recover from. First-turn kills are close to impossible to make in non-type 1 decks -- they basically nerf them specifically to prevent them.

Wouldn't a Library of Leng good counter for Necropotence? It gives you some nice advantages, esp when played with this other artifact that gives you one life for each card in your hand over 7.

[loinburger]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Not sure. Aren't there cards banned even for Type 1?

Just the ante ones, I think. (Like Demonic Attorney or Amulet Of Quoz or Rebirth.) I think they might also have the 4-card-of-each-type limit imposed, but I'm not sure.

Library of Leng is fantastic, but it doesn't prevent your opponent from drawing a zillion cards using Necropotence, since it only skips your discard phase, not your opponent's. The Black Speed Deck strategy relies on your opponent getting Necropotence out on his first turn, drawing a zillion cards, and then having a hand full of weenies and Dark Rituals on the second turn. Blue just doesn't have enough Counterspells to handle all of the spells, White and Green can't get out their weenies fast enough and don't have enough mana to fuel a Circle of Protection, and Red is in the same boat (unless Black is stupid and draws so many cards that Red gets an easy win with a lightning bolt). If your opponent got a Dark Ritual and a Necropotence on his first draw, then you were usually ****ed.

[DinoDoc]

Here's a full listing of the Scourge cards.

The Sliver Overlord looks almost broken for the people running Sliver decks.

[Mr. President]

Yeah, he's pretty good. Slivers vs. Slivers would be chaos!

I think this guy might have an edge over the Sliver Queen from Tempest in that her ability makes generic Slivers with no abilities. If you really need the Sliver that boosts its people's power, he'll find it for you!

I like Soul Collector, personally. Why aren't there more Vampires?