Questions about Shogun - Total War

[Carolus Rex]

Bought it last week and have a couple of questions.

In the training mission ("first battle"), why do my archers run away? I give them orders to hold the position, to attack etc but they seem to fall back as soon as the enemy comes too close. Is this to obtain the needed distance to be able to use their bows? I also have difficulties moving them where I want... I can't even win the training mission...

This is a nice price copy of the game. At the back it says the CD's contain a manual with English/Swedish/Danish text. They also have Acrobat Reader included, but there is no manual, not even a single .pdf file... Ok, you don't have to be a genius to figure out the game, but still... The map room, for example. How do I "enter" one of my provinces (or can't I?) to inspect the troops or build things? Do I only see the same landscape (i.e. as in the training mission) when it's time to battle, and is the rest of the game played from the map room?

Carolus

[FrustratedPoet]

Re: Questions about Shogun - Total War

Originally posted by Carolus Rex
Is this to obtain the needed distance to be able to use their bows?

Yes.

[Jamski]

Re: Questions about Shogun - Total War

Originally posted by Carolus Rex
Do I only see the same landscape (i.e. as in the training mission) when it's time to battle, and is the rest of the game played from the map room?
Carolus

Also yes.

-Jam

[DrSpike]

When Shogun came out (almost 3 years ago now) I remember rushing back home and screwing up that mission twice.

I said, but finally it clicked. IIRC you just empty your archers when they have the height advantage (shoot as they are coming up the hill) then order the archers to attack using swords.

[Carolus Rex]

Thanks.

I'll probably come back with more questions... After failing the training mission I got frustrated and felt like ... Didn't take the time to explore the game more thoroughly...

Carolus

[DrSpike]

It was a great game.......very innovative for its time. Of course nowadays you really should get Medieval Total War, which is more polished.

[C0ckney]

both games are fantastic and well worth sticking with. if only only someone could combine EU2's number of countries and provinces with the total war 3D engine it would be my perfect game

[Carolus Rex]

I don't have much experience with RTS games, what made it innovative? Not that I find it poorly designed or anything, I think it has very nice graphics. As for gameplay, it is still terra incognita to me, which should be obvious from my posts above.

Carolus

[Carolus Rex]

And has Medieval Total War recently been shipped? I haven't seen the title here yet, I think.

Carolus

[Kc7mxo]

Medieval came out last year.

and its a damn fine game.

[C0ckney]

it was innvative because it combined turn based empire building and province management with fairly realistic real-time 3D battles (and the battles are really great).

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Carolus Rex
I don't have much experience with RTS games, what made it innovative? Not that I find it poorly designed or anything, I think it has very nice graphics. As for gameplay, it is still terra incognita to me, which should be obvious from my posts above.

Carolus

It is both TBS planning and RTS battles. The engine for the RTS is surprisingly advanced......with things like morale playing a huge part in games, unlike usual RTS.

[Carolus Rex]

DrSpike,

I let the archers shoot at the enemy when they have a height advantage. At the most, they've killed three before retreating and being charged by the enemy. After that they always retreat and I can't seem to get them organised again. How do you order them to attack using swords? Does it happen automatically when they're engaged by the enemy? They fight man to man, but always lose heavily...

How can you ship a game without a manual, even if it's a budget series?

Still have to win the training mission...

Carolus

[Jamski]

Carolus, try this forum. I picked up a lot of hints here. I'm not much of a RTS profi either, so it was of great help.

http://www.totalwar.com/community/warlord.htm

BTW, don't worry about the training mission too much.

-Jam

[Grumbold]

If you have to order your archers to attack with swords, unless its in the back of an enemy already being killed form the front, you're in trouble. Archers should always have some friends with big shields to run and cower behind. Archers on a steep hill just behind a row of spearmen are deadly.