UT2003...utterly ridiculous

[PCRefugee]

I can't believe this. The game was (allegedly) delayed so that they could refine it, fine tune it etc. This was to make sure that it would run on as low a spec machine as possible. Well, I got the game today and what do I find? The game won't run on either of my machines (P3 800 and 1.3G Athlon). I get corrupt files and missing DLLs when using the debug tool. This is something I would expect from a rushed game, not one delayed to iron out such problems. On the back of the box it says "The Legend Returns"....that's a laugh and a half. If you're going to give us a bugged game at least give us a bugged game that actually runs - but no, it doesn't run at all...another £30 quid down the drain. Well done to Epic - you've just ruined my day.

[FrustratedPoet]

Did the demo work on your machine?

(I'm assuming you downloaded it, since 98% of the world's population seems to have done. If you only have a 56k connection then maybe you didn't though... in which case ignore me )

[PCRefugee]

You're right, I've only got a 56k so didn't download the demo. The point is..a product is a product is a product. If I buy a car, I don't have to wait months for the manufacturers to design and build an engine to make it go. A product should be, by law, fit for purpose. Epic(or Atari or whoever) is just taking the piss as far as I'm concerned. In case you haven't guessed, I'm a bit miffed.

[DinoDoc]

You actually thought it was going to run on a P3?

[PCRefugee]

Minimum specs say P3 733 and I'm above that but I've also got a 1.3Gig and it doesn't run on that either. I've downloaded all the latest drivers and when I say it doesn't run, I don't mean that it runs slowly or crashes - it doesn't even start. So, what point are you trying to make, DinoDoc? As far as I'm concerned I've been ripped off and I'm not in the mood for any crap. I'm off to demand a refund first thing.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by PCRefugee
So, what point are you trying to make, DinoDoc?

The point was that it wasn't entirely suprising that it wouldn't run on the P3 considering it doesn't even come close to the recommended specs and that you should take your whining to Epic tech support instead of inflicting it on us.

[PCRefugee]

Are you naturally stupid or do you have to practice at it?
The machines are above the recommended specs - and that comes from the manufacturers info, not from me. As for my 'whining'..there are two reasons why I posted here 1) to let other people know there are problems with this software and 2) the official site has problems with its forums and tech help areas and I can't get access there.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by PCRefugee
The machines are above the recommended specs - and that comes from the manufacturers info, not from me.

Given your obvious lack of reading skills, it really doesn't suprise me that you don't realize that only one of your machines falls within the recommended (not Minimum) specs. It might also behoove you to actually check to see if any of your video cards are supported.

2) the official site has problems with its forums and tech help areas and I can't get access there.

There's a wonderful invention called e-mail. Perhaps you've heard of it.

[PCRefugee]

On the minimum/recommended argument. My interpretation of a minimum spec is that it should run(maybe badly but it should run). The recommended on the box is 1 Gig so my other machine is within recommended spec as you say. As for video cards, I'm running Gforce 2 and 4 respectively. Fair point about e-mail but I prefer the refund option (I have followed all advice so far and got nothing out of this software). I believe the only way to put a halt to these ridiculous compatibilty situations is to use the financial influence available to us and force companies to treat their customers fairly (I don't know whether it's the publisher forcing the developer to go for an early release but it's getting more and more common to find these sorts of problems).
Finally. We've both had our say and chucked about a few insults. I suggest we leave it at that before it escalates.

[Asher]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
You actually thought it was going to run on a P3?

It's quite playable on my P3 800 (w/ GF3) system, just with most of the graphics turned down.

[PCRefugee]

Glad to see that somebody's had some luck getting it to run. The sad thing is that I loved the original UT and even managed to reach position 40 at one point in the Domination league under the pseudonym of CyberPsycho. But it looks like my UT days are over: it's become a matter of principle

[CapitanGarlic]

The game hates you. You have no choice now but to become a bitter hermit from the world of UT. You seem to be doing this quite well.

[Tuberski]

I'm assuming you're talking about unreal tournament?

[Bkeela]

You actually thought it was going to run on a P3?

Hmmm, you make it sound like P3's are utterly obsolete. I suppose they will be when it comes to games like Doom III and such, but MoOIII and the new Simcity better run okay.

Bkeela.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Bkeela
Hmmm, you make it sound like P3's are utterly obsolete.

I didn't mean to imply that. I only meant to say that one can hardly expect a P3 to run UT well at all.