BG2- Evil Whiners.

[loinburger]

Originally posted by Chowlett
One other thing - can priests learn new spells? The only scrolls I've come across (with the exception of various protections) are only readable by my Mage.

IIRC, priests automatically learn new spells when they advance a level. They never learn new spells off of scrolls, since they don't have spell books.

[Traianvs]

well, they have a spellbook but you just can't add any spells from scrolls

if you want to know more about classes start new game, and check the classes, there's some info on their abilities

you can go to www.bgchronicles.com as well, i think there's info on it.. haven't checked though

[Chowlett]

I might swap Jaheira for Haer'Dalis just for a trial anyway. The constant bickering between her and Aerie (who I've just, indirectly, declared my love for it would seem) is getting annoying. It's just a shame to lose another magic-user, particularly one who just got a no-strings-attached summon Fire Elemental spell...

[loinburger]

Originally posted by Trajanus
well, they have a spellbook but you just can't add any spells from scrolls

They haven't got one in the usual sense. Mages need a spellbook to memorize their spells, while clerics don't need to carry one around--they get their daily spells regardless, as long as they sleep/meditate/whatever.

[Chowlett]

They haven't got one in the usual sense. Mages need a spellbook to memorize their spells, while clerics don't need to carry one around--they get their daily spells regardless, as long as they sleep/meditate/whatever.

Actually, no. They have a "priest scroll" instead of a mage book. This, like the mage book, contains all the priest spells they could potentially memorise and, like the mage, they choose which set they want to memorise each time they sleep. Identical, in fact, except that they don't seem to add spells in the same way as mages.

[loinburger]

Really? I'd thought that clerics spontaneously cast their spells like sorcerers. (I guess it kinda shows that I never play as a cleric.)

[SnowFire]

This is where it helps to know D&D. Yes, they have a priest scroll Chowlett, but that's strictly a convenience so you memorize things with the same interface as a mage and don't get confused. Remember, what are priests? They're servants of a God. You don't "research" new prayers. You simply get them granted. So priests have no spellbooks, they merely pray for such-and-such spells. The use of a scroll is misleading, there is no need. And that's why you don't need to "learn" priest spells either, they're just granted.

That said, loinburger is wrong- while it would make perfect sense for them to be able to cast spontaneously a la Sorceror, in 1st edition D&D they were made to cast the same way as a mage because... erm, 'cause they were silly and stupid. Also for balance I suppose, being that clerics might be "too good" otherwise. So thus that's the same way they cast.

Anyway, I am using Viconia, and things are working out. It's too bad, I'd like to can Anomen for Keldorn, but I really need the double-healy things... I suppose I could swap in Keldorn and just rest a lot more often, but that'd feel cheap.

[Chowlett]

Well, I swapped in Haer'Dalis, and was plesently surprised to find that bards are able to use mage spells. Which is nice.

The only problem is - he's started flirting with Aerie! *grumble*. He keeps calling her "his dove", and she's responding, dammit. I don't mind being told - if I want to fix up with Aerie, am I going to have to drop him? And in case I do, whereabouts in Athkala is the group of Harpers that Jaheira went to?

[loinburger]

Originally posted by Chowlett
Well, I swapped in Haer'Dalis, and was plesently surprised to find that bards are able to use mage spells. Which is nice.

His Lore skill will also be useful for identifying items for free.

[Sandman]

I created a swashbuckler that actually used bucklers, but gave up after I realised that there are no decent bucklers in the game. What a pest.

But now I'm playing as a dual-mace wielding barbarian, inspired by a minor character from Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. He seems pretty solid so far.

[Chowlett]

Yes, I'd forgotten that. About 1.5 times that of his nearest rival, Aerie, and he's only levelled up once...

[Traianvs]

The harper building can eb found in the docks district in the southeast womewhat, big building, a cool quest can be done there too, you'll see a few BG1 characters again, pretty funny


bah you just don't use bucklers even if you have a swashbuckler , shields are for sissies anyway, it's better to have two handed weapons or dual wield, on only a few cases shields are very handy (against beholders there is a special behloderray shiled that deflects their deadly rays!!!)

shields as a whole aren't very useful i found... it's also very annoying when ya wanna switch to bow or crossbow... you'd have to use sling, or darts, or throwing axes, but those weapons are weak..

[Chowlett]

But does Haer'Dalis pose a threat to my courtship of Aerie?

[Sandman]

bah you just don't use bucklers even if you have a swashbuckler , shields are for sissies anyway, it's better to have two handed weapons or dual wield, on only a few cases shields are very handy (against beholders there is a special behloderray shiled that deflects their deadly rays!!!)

I completed the game with a dual-wielding Undead Hunter, so I wanted something a bit more difficult.
He's got full shield skill, combined high dexterity and swashing bonuses this makes him extremely difficult to hit with missiles. Which is nice.

shields as a whole aren't very useful i found... it's also very annoying when ya wanna switch to bow or crossbow... you'd have to use sling, or darts, or throwing axes, but those weapons are weak..

I find darts to be great. Switching is also a pain when dual-wielding.

[Traianvs]

yea, true , of course

darts are quite puny, because they don't do big chunks of damage, okay it has a high fire rate, but even still, with my archer i could dish out 4 times as much damage with improved speed, and of course there are some nice arrows such as ice arrows (there are more fire protected creatures... so fire arrows are just a bit lesser)