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    Emperor: Battle for Dune

    I vote for this game as the best fantasy RTS. I think it may even be better than Starcraft. Third runner-up, for me, might be Sacrifice. Sacrifice was probably the most unique RTS I have ever played. Very humorous too.

    In EBD

    *You have an excellent waypoint system.
    *There is a little political intrigue: you can ally with the Tleilaxu, Sardaukar, Ix, Guild, or Fremen.
    *Unlimited sized groupings, which is good since you are limited to 9.
    *Formations.
    *Build Q's.
    *Unusual and some surreal units.
    *The units are very well balanced.

    You have all that and you get the great Dune universe too for a rich backdrop to fight against. As Dune was the original RTS wargame, it's good to see that Westwood learned from their previous mistakes and delivered a near perfect game.

    Anyone else have this game? Do you agree? I have been having a blast playing this. I just finished House Ordos and now I'm playing the Atreides. I'm saving the best for last, the Harkonnen scum. Their anti-infantry unit, a giant buzzsaw tank, is freakish and frightening to contemplate.
    "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
    —Orson Welles as Harry Lime
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    I never did get into that game - I guess I was just expecting an updated version of Dune 2. Speaking of which, my dad still plays Dune 2.
    I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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    • #3
      I hated that game. The graphics were too unrealistic.
      "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Eli
        I hated that game. The graphics were too unrealistic.
        How exactly do you realistically render sandworms, etc.?
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        • #5
          No... It was just too toyish. It all looked like a huge lego game.
          "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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          • #6
            Eli, are you talking about Dune 2000 or Battle for Dune?

            The graphics in battle for dune are very good. They take full advantage of 3d accelerated graphics. The whole game is fully 3d too. And this time the worms are impressive. The first time I saw one take out an army, my jaw literally dropped open.
            "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
            —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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            • #7
              Here's some screens:
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              "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
              —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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              • #8
                This is a medium-zoom-view of an infantry battle, HUD off, between House Atreides and the Tleiaxu.
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                "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
                —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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                • #9
                  I dont know how the Units are 'well-balanced'
                  Fremen and Sadaukar seemed too Powerful to me
                  Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

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                  • #10
                    They're supposed to be (based upon the story).
                    I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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                    • #11
                      Well granted :=)
                      But ingame it seemed quite ridiculous to me. Those two Factions just cancel out each others Disadvateges ( The Sadaukar vulnerability to Vehicles and the Fremen vulnerability to Flying Stuff...) and arent too expensive..
                      Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

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                      • #12
                        Actually, I must confess I was thinking about Dune 2000 before rather than the newer Emperor: BFD. So is the newer one similar to Dune 2 in gameplay and structure/unit builds? The graphics look superb (and sandworms are actually something to be feared).
                        I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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                        • #13
                          Main_Brain, you're right about them cancelling each other out. That's part of the balance. They are balanced like a rock, paper, scissors game. Each unit has another unit that can kill it quite easily.

                          A nice touch this time, is that the Fremen Fedaykin can ride the worms. I haven't tried this yet myself, as I keep forgetting about it in the heat of battle.

                          Skanky, I didn't play Dune 2, I did play Dune 2000 and I didn't like that one too much. The game play, minus the advances in technology and the new unit capabilities and additions, is very much the same as the original Dune. The big difference this time is the automation of spice harvesting. You no longer have to micromanage your harvesters. Just make sure you build enough carryalls and defend your spice fields and you'll have plenty of credits to trounce your enemy. You no longer need to build concrete, any solid rock will do. Infantry is also better this time around due to a new terrain feature know as infantry rock. Infantry in infantry rock, gain armor bonuses and cannot be overrun by vehicles.

                          I've posted a couple more screens.
                          Attached Files
                          "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
                          —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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                          • #14
                            This an Ordos mortar group, Tleilaxu leeches and light tanks rebuffing a small Atreides rush. If you look close you can see the goldish looking shields on the Ordos light tanks.
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                            "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
                            —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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                            • #15
                              i played it for a while, but haven't beaten it. i like house ordos's kamikazes, but that's just me.

                              my main problem with it is that it story, gamewise, is rather weak... there's a good way to be non-linear, and then there's a bad way, and emperor just kinda leans too close to the bad way.
                              B♭3

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