MOM Hint II

[pchang]

Yes I have tried 11 life books and the incarnation strategy works too, but it is slower. 11 chaos and chaos spawn works fairly well. Right now I am trying 11 sorcery and storm giant. It is working fairly well, except that in my current game I have found 2 death books so far. Anyway, I think once you can support 200 manna per turn and Time Stop, the game is over. I was hoping for life instead. So far, I have not been able to get warlord and crusade at the same time, but I can always hope.

[Richard Bruns]

That wraith strategy is just too powerful. I had won the game by 1409, even though I wasted a lot of time taking out nodes and exploring Myrror. It looks like 11 of any type of book is a game-breaker, so I'll avoid that in the future.

By the way, why do the Wraiths have such a hard time fighting other undead creatures? Stacks of ghouls or zombies will kill a perfectly healthy unit, despite being much less powerful than other things the Wraiths kill easily.

[pchang]

wraiths life steal. they take points from the enemy and regenerate by the same amount. you can't steal life from the undead.

[Father Beast]

Before we get too far into the sequel, lets have a link to the Grand Old Thread
http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum22/HTML/000583.html?173

the thread I read first when I come here. or used to

why the (bleep) do they close threads anyway?

must be some programming FM

thanks for bringing it back, guys

[Father Beast]

Every time I play MoM, I am amazed at how difficult it is to get started. the support for even the lousy starting troops can drag on you, and supporting some troops decent enough to take a node is can drag a single city to a virtual halt. not to mention that the improvements neccesary to get those decent troops cost more gold in support than is very feasible.

When I get on in the game and have several maxed out cities doing trade goods (capitalization), I forget how rough it is at the start.

does everyone have this problem, or is it just me?

[pchang]

I think everyone has that problem. This is why the game is so challenging. It is also why the 11 death book strategy w/ wraiths is so powerful.

[Chowlett]

I eventually found another install of MoM on my hard-drive, ostensibly identical with the other - but it worked. It's now safe on a RW CD while my machine is upgraded.

I think, before it went, I won on easy with the 11 death/wraith method in 1409. And I wasn't really trying.

[pchang]

I was demonstrating that 11 death strategy over the weekend, but this time the wizard on Myrror was a life wizard who managed to cast planar seal before I was ready. I still won, but it took a lot longer since I couldn't attack him.

Why do they close these threads? The UltimateBB software this site uses has an inefficient algorithm for linking new threads (I figure they are using some sort of linked list instead of an index hash). This causes the server to really slow down if the threads get too long. They close long threads to prevent this.

[pchang]

Has anyone else noticed that the higher the difficulty setting, the more often the game crashes?

[Bosh]

It's ridiculously easy to win as trolls without ever using any magic, you just run in circles whenever you get hurt. Virtually nothing can beat an army of 9 elite war trolls . Trolls and a little bit of life magic to buff them up is especially devastating.

[pchang]

What do you do before you can build War Trolls? Earlier units only move 1.

[pchang]

BTW, I finally got Warlord and Crusade in the same game. Champion Adamantium Doom Drakes could almost take on Sky Drakes on a 1 for 1 basis. My Mithril Paladins boosted by Torin's leadership had an attack of 16. The only real problem was that by the time I found the Crusade spell, the game was pretty much over. There was only 1 enemy wizard left, and while she was still a pain in the ass, the outcome was no longer in doubt.

[Chowlett]

quote: I eventually found another install of MoM on my hard-drive, ostensibly identical with the other - but it worked. It's now safe on a RW CD while my machine is upgraded. I think, before it went, I won on easy with the 11 death/wraith method in 1409. And I wasn't really trying.

Only, when I came to back it back, I discovered I was 7k short again. I'll try putting some things in High when it comes back from repair (see the B&W thread)

[Bosh]

Well even without war trolls you can generally beat most monsters that only move one space a turn by leading them on wild goose chases while your trolls regen. With some practice you'll also be able to "ping pong" faster monsters between you non-war trolls as long as there aren't many of them or they aren't too powerful. Also its possible to have a spare hero lead the enemey around while your trolls heal...

[pchang]

I just got MOM to load on Windows 2000. It was pretty easy, but I lost sound. Anyway, it is on my laptop now and I play on the plane when I'm travelling. Just create a PIF for magic.exe and wizards.exe. Set DOS environment to 640 and EMS to 4096. Then run install and say no sound to everything. It may be possible to get sound if you have a Soundblaster card, but I'm pretty sure the one on my laptop isn't supported. Of course, I haven't had time to fully explore the settings. Anyway, sound on an airplane is kind of pointless. It's so noisy you can't hear anything anyway.