The Chump vs The Champ

[kcbob]

quote: Originally posted by Smash on 10-20-2000 01:44 PM Kasparov is the greatest.

Are you kiddin' me??? How can anyone not think Fisher was the greatest???

BTW. I have a couple of comments that I'd love to make concerning the last few moves in this game but I think I should hold off for a while.

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Frodo lives!

Better dead than "Red"... or green... or blue... or yellow... or orange... or purple... or white.

[Carolus Rex]

quote: Originally posted by Smash on 10-20-2000 01:44 PM Kasparov is the greatest. I think the challenger should choose colors. Sorry CR,I was a victim of technical difficulties.ISP tech support should be called: "I'm sorry,we don't actually do anything"

Very difficult to choose the greatest. All three mentioned by you guys are definitely on my list, but picking one of them...

I agree with Smash, challenger picking side first gets my vote.

No problem at all (ISP), Smash. However, I can't post my next move tonight. Earliest tomorrow (Saturday) night.

Carolus

[Julius Brenzaida]

quote: Originally posted by kcbob on 10-20-2000 03:19 PM Are you kiddin' me??? How can anyone not think Fisher was the greatest???

All that I can tell is that Morphy was a gentleman.
I hope you’ve never heard Fischer talking in the nineties and I wonder how one could escape noticing that Kasparov’s behavior is not always 100% correct. I witnessed it myself.




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Oh Man, when will you understand that your greatness lies in your failure - Goethe

[Julius Brenzaida]

Oups, I just happened to notice I forgot something VERY important in my proposition of rules. What happens if the game is a draw ?
a2) if there is a draw, the champion retains his title.
b2) the challenger chooses the side he wants to play with.
“a2” is logical if one looks at the history of Chess Championships and “b2” gives a little something to the challenger. But think that the opponents of Lasker had to provide a huge amount of money ...
Do you all agree with the new rules ?


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Oh Man, when will you understand that your greatness lies in your failure - Goethe

[Smash]

Ya the problem that can arise is 1 player being very strong with white pieces and winning or drawing every game ala Karpov.

Perhaps a multi-win champ should be given a return match.Perhaps a candidates cycle should run.Maybe it should be the 1st to win 10 games....oops...now I sound like Fischer

Position-correct?

http://www.fortunecity.co.uk/amuseme...205/chess.html

[kcbob]

quote: Originally posted by Smash on 10-21-2000 04:19 PM Ya the problem that can arise is 1 player being very strong with white pieces and winning or drawing every game ala Karpov.

Rats!! My plan has been uncovered!!

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Frodo lives!

Better dead than "Red"... or green... or blue... or yellow... or orange... or purple... or white.

[Julius Brenzaida]

quote: Originally posted by Smash on 10-21-2000 04:19 PM Ya the problem that can arise is 1 player being very strong with white pieces and winning or drawing every game ala Karpov. Perhaps a multi-win champ should be given a return match.Perhaps a candidates cycle should run.Maybe it should be the 1st to win 10 games....oops...now I sound like Fischer Position-correct? C'mon let's remain modest.We're all no Karpov, or is he one of you but whishes to remain anonymous. He like history a lot, so why not civ2. Too much civplaying would explain his elo drop of the last few years. http://www.fortunecity.co.uk/amuseme...205/chess.html

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Oh Man, when will you understand that your greatness lies in your failure - Goethe

[Julius Brenzaida]

quote: Originally posted by Smash on 10-21-2000 04:19 PM Ya the problem that can arise is 1 player being very strong with white pieces and winning or drawing every game ala Karpov. Perhaps a multi-win champ should be given a return match.Perhaps a candidates cycle should run.Maybe it should be the 1st to win 10 games....oops...now I sound like Fischer http://www.fortunecity.co.uk/amuseme...205/chess.html

Sorry for the last post with my remarks in the quote !
Call it a blunder.
If the challenger can choose the colors, it gives him a little edge. Besides to try to draw a game early on is a sure way to lose ! It's true at any level of play, even for our highness.
As draw can happen, I think my rule is correct. But if you have a better practical idea, I'd buy it happily.





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Oh Man, when will you understand that your greatness lies in your failure - Goethe

[Julius Brenzaida]

quote: Originally posted by Smash on 10-21-2000 04:19 PM Ya the problem that can arise is 1 player being very strong with white pieces and winning or drawing every game ala Karpov.

This time I do it all nice and clean.
C'mon let's remain modest.We're all no Karpov, or is he one of you but whishes to remain anonymous. He likes history a lot, so why not civ2. Too much civplaying would explain his elo drop of the last few years.




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Oh Man, when will you understand that your greatness lies in your failure - Goethe

[Carolus Rex]

1. c4....Nf6
2. Nc3...e5
3. Nf3...Nc6
4. d3....Bb4
5. e4....d6
6. Be2...O-O
7. O-O...h6
8. Na4...Qe7
9. a3....Ba5
10. b4...Bb6
11. NxB..axN
12. b5...Nd4
13. NxN..exN
14. Bb2..c5
15. bxc e.p....bxc6
16. Bxd4...c5
17. Bc3....Nh7
18. Qd2....Rb8
19. a4.....f5
20. exf5...Bxf5
21. Rfe1...Qf7
22. a5.....bxa5
23. Rxa5...Be6
24. Bd1....Ng5
25. Ra6....Rbd8

Carolus

[Smash]

If there was a shot there I couldn't find it either.I was looking at a black queen move but it didn't seem to lead anywhere.

1. c4....Nf6
2. Nc3...e5
3. Nf3...Nc6
4. d3....Bb4
5. e4....d6
6. Be2...O-O
7. O-O...h6
8. Na4...Qe7
9. a3....Ba5
10. b4...Bb6
11. NxB..axN
12. b5...Nd4
13. NxN..exN
14. Bb2..c5
15. bxc e.p....bxc6
16. Bxd4...c5
17. Bc3....Nh7
18. Qd2....Rb8
19. a4.....f5
20. exf5...Bxf5
21. Rfe1...Qf7
22. a5.....bxa5
23. Rxa5...Be6
24. Bd1....Ng5
25. Ra6....Rbd8
26. Rb6

[Julius Brenzaida]

quote: Originally posted by Smash on 10-24-2000 05:54 PM If there was a shot there I couldn't find it either.I was looking at a black queen move but it didn't seem to lead anywhere.

I'll give you my opinion at the end of the game. For now, it wouldn't be fair.
Kcbob, I've already send it at your e-mail adress.
It is an interesting game.
By the way, Kasparov has lost again. He must win twice in the last 6 games (so only 3 times as white) to regain his title. A new era is about to begin ...
At least I hope, cause the situation of top class chess was not healthy (not that I was directly concerned).



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Oh Man, when will you understand that your greatness lies in your failure - Goethe

[Carolus Rex]

Sorry for the long absence!

No ISP problems, no broken leg, I've just been trying to find a nice attack combo getting grey hairs in the process. White always had a saving move, at least I couldn't find The Killing Move...

Not too excited about Rbd8, but my options seemed limited. Will be interesting to hear your suggestions after the game.

Carolus

[Carolus Rex]

1. c4....Nf6
2. Nc3...e5
3. Nf3...Nc6
4. d3....Bb4
5. e4....d6
6. Be2...O-O
7. O-O...h6
8. Na4...Qe7
9. a3....Ba5
10. b4...Bb6
11. NxB..axN
12. b5...Nd4
13. NxN..exN
14. Bb2..c5
15. bxc e.p....bxc6
16. Bxd4...c5
17. Bc3....Nh7
18. Qd2....Rb8
19. a4.....f5
20. exf5...Bxf5
21. Rfe1...Qf7
22. a5.....bxa5
23. Rxa5...Be6
24. Bd1....Ng5
25. Ra6....Rbd8
26. Rb6....Qg6

Carolus

[Smash]

1. c4....Nf6
2. Nc3...e5
3. Nf3...Nc6
4. d3....Bb4
5. e4....d6
6. Be2...O-O
7. O-O...h6
8. Na4...Qe7
9. a3....Ba5
10. b4...Bb6
11. NxB..axN
12. b5...Nd4
13. NxN..exN
14. Bb2..c5
15. bxc e.p....bxc6
16. Bxd4...c5
17. Bc3....Nh7
18. Qd2....Rb8
19. a4.....f5
20. exf5...Bxf5
21. Rfe1...Qf7
22. a5.....bxa5
23. Rxa5...Be6
24. Bd1....Ng5
25. Ra6....Rbd8
26. Rb6....Qg6
27. Kh1