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  • #16
    I don't think that it will be all that expensive. Remember that X-Box 1 is selling for less than it costs to build it. Consols make thier money off the games.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Jaguar
      If it's $400 and the PS3 is less than that, I think the public won't touch it.
      The original Xbox cost $400 too, they just sold it at the same price as the PS2.

      MS knows it'd be suicide to sell it above the PS3's pricerange. Ditto for the Xbox/PS2. Whenever the PS2 dropped in price, the Xbox did as well.

      Hell, right now the Xbox costs less than the PS2, but costs way more to produce.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Jamski
        I won't buy it HOWEVER good it is, unless it comes with a mouse and a keyboard, and I can buy stuff to stick inside it to make it better.

        i.e. a REAL computer, instead of a gimped box for kids who can't handle "complicated man's stuff" like installing a programme from CD.

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        So predictable.

        Consoles are not PCs, and they don't pretend to be.

        I'm happy for you that you won't buy a console until it becomes a PC, but unfortunately for you, the vast majority of gamers these days are actually console gamers.

        So nice troll attempt, but all it does is show that you don't understand anything about why consoles exist. You remind me of the 12-year-old fanboys on the IGN forums who keep blasting the Xbox because "it's just a PC, it sux0rs".
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        • #19
          LONG LIVE XBOX 2!! Until of course...
          XBOX3!!!!!!!!!!!1
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          • #20
            i'm not sure i believe this. how could they possibility afford this? i know microsoft is sitting on billions but i thought they are making the xbox to make money. wouldn't these units cost $500+ to make(let alone sell)? that system also seems lopsided with way too much cpu power but not enough ram/graphics muscle(unless i'm not understanding it correctly).
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            • #21
              In a dedicated system I'd bet that the need of memory is less noticiable than in a general-purpouse system.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Asher

                So predictable.

                Consoles are not PCs, and they don't pretend to be.

                I'm happy for you that you won't buy a console until it becomes a PC, but unfortunately for you, the vast majority of gamers these days are actually console gamers.
                why exactly is this unfortunate for Jamski?
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by pg
                  i'm not sure i believe this. how could they possibility afford this? i know microsoft is sitting on billions but i thought they are making the xbox to make money. wouldn't these units cost $500+ to make(let alone sell)? that system also seems lopsided with way too much cpu power but not enough ram/graphics muscle(unless i'm not understanding it correctly).
                  It'll probably cost around $400 to make, go on sale for $299.

                  I don't think it'd cost too much to make. When you buy parts in the millions, you get a price discount. The time this will go into production is mid-to-late 2005, and the chips will be made on the new 65nm process which makes the chips smaller and cheaper, and integrating 3 CPUs into one die will also reduce cost.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Asher
                    the vast majority of gamers these days are actually console gamers.
                    Sorry Asher, but it is a bit difficult to deny the fact that console gamers are more likely to pick up Doom or Unreal Tournament than they are Deus Ex (1, not that fakeDeusEx that presends to be the second one) or SMACX
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                    • #25
                      Deus Ex and SMACX are both crap, sadly.

                      (Deus Ex 1 & 2 both sold more on various consoles than on PC )
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Asher
                        Deus Ex and SMACX are both crap, sadly.
                        What don't you like about them?

                        The fact that you can't just shoot at everything you see? The fact that they don't have ubergreat graphics?

                        (Deus Ex 1 & 2 both sold more on various consoles than on PC )
                        I have a hard time believing Deus Ex 1 sold more on Playstation than on PC. I hear the port was not great at all.
                        But I can *easily* believe Deus Ex 2 sold more on consoles. Considering it was made for XBOX and ported to PC
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Asher
                          Deus Ex and SMACX are both crap, sadly.
                          Shut yo'mouth, sucka!

                          Deus Ex is one of the most fantastic games ever created.
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                          • #28
                            Docpile asher!!!
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                            • #29
                              The game ran like crap on my then-state-of-the-art P3 600 w/ TNT2 Ultra 32MB.

                              Was too annoying to play.
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                              • #30
                                what is edram?

                                is that a regular dvd drive or hd-dvd drive or what?

                                Looking at those specs, I can't imagine myself owning a more powerful pc than that in 3 years, let alone a console with that much firepower.

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