PnP ADnD character creation

[Jon Miller]

artificer, pre3.5 needed several levels of rogue as well as several levels of mage

the trickster is a sort of combination rogue/wizard

and probably is not doing it for the same reasons as your mages

I always thought those two classes went together, in Baldur's gate my character is an elf rogue/wizard

an artificer can craft items that can be used for spell effects (levels 0 - 4) for cheaper than another caster (no xp cost for one), also has a med increase BAB (and gets items for free every 2 levels)

the only thing I notice bad about multiclassing a wizard is that yuor familiar doesn't get better, other than that it seems to be benificial to multiclass to at least another wizard class (I guess if you want to remain a generalist yuo should remain wizard)

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

I fail to see how Sorceror and Wizard have changed in 3.5?

KponM iller

[Jamski]

Wizards get better feats.

Its your character anyway Jon. I just always prefer either pure class characters or fighter/rogues.

As a DM I'd disallow prestige classes anyway. Or make you actually go to Gond or wherever to meet the right people and have your ship sink.

-Jam

[Jon Miller]

it is Lathan

and Tarna is from there

Jon Miller

[Jamski]

Like I said, as a DM, I'd make you get all the requirements in-game. Then a prestige class has a certain amout of prestige attached.

-Jam

[Panzeh]

I made a human barbarian named General Foch

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
5 archmage

I think Archmage is a sucky prestige class, the costs are high and the returns aren't so good. Mythic theurge is much better IMO. But since you don't need clerical spells, wizard is fine.

[Jamski]

Archmage is a prestige class that makes DMs go mad. Perfect for breaking a well designed module.
(especially elemental mastery)
Pah, PrClasses are for powergamers anyway

-Jam

[Urban Ranger]

Some of those powers are gross, but IIRC, you have to take them in order. Overall, it's not worth it.

[Jon Miller]

I don't think you have to take them in order

I think that you can take any you wish

Jon Miler

[Jamski]

High Arcana: An archmage gains the opportunity to select a special ability from among those described below by permanently eliminating one existing spell slot

So they take "casting a spell as innate ability" and "elemental mastery" and make DM's hit heads on walls in frustration.

Ah, a fire elemental has grappled me (for example) but I have Sunfire I could cast as an innate abilty... change it to do cold damage...

-Jam

[Jon Miller]

yah

the archmage is really powerful

Jon Miller

[Jamski]

You have to be a powerful mage before you can even THINK of becoming an archmage. The PrC is just extra cheeze on the cheezecake.

(bear in mind my IDEAL character at the moment is a Fighter4/Rogue5)

-Jam

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
yah

the archmage is really powerful

Jon Miller

I am not sure trading off 9th level spells for some of these are worthwhile.

[Jon Miller]

there is only one that you trade off a 9th level spell for

the others you trade off 5th-8th level

JOn Miller